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How to move a specific variant to an album ?

jacques
Hi everyone,

I have created a project called "Scotland" and in it created two albums: "Color" and "B&W". From my main source I started moving all color photos to the "Color" album. I checked there and found out that it copied (I know it is not a "real copy", only a link) not only the color variant of that photo but all variants (including the B&W one). Next, from within the "Color" album I tried to move only the B&W photos to the "B&W" album. Here again, all variants copied. I thought ok, I'll just remove the color photos from the B&W photos. Started to do that ... until I found out that by removing them (I used the "del" button), I really deleted the variant itself even from the source.

Could any of you explain how to do what I am looking for ? Basically 1 project, 2 albums (color and B&W), and separate the color variants from the B&W ones.

Many thanks for your help !
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    Maybe you try a smart album, using keywords "Color" and "B&W".
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  • SFA
    Assuming the concepts of the catalog operations are not dissimilar to the those of sessions, in a session the edit instructions for ALL variants are contained in the same file. They are "virtual" variants not separate records.

    The cleanest way to completely separate things would be to use different copies of the original file. Assuming that would not be attractive to you the next thing to consider is why you want to separate them and whether separation at the point of output processing (the "final" version at any point in the edit project) would suffice. That is more easily achieved.

    Otherwise you would be looking to group things by filtering and so using smart albums or perhaps Groups but I'm guessing there as I am not very familiar with catalogs and their more interesting features.

    There may be some alternative approaches that are not obvious so hopefully others can chip in with those.


    Grant
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  • Emmanuel Mellet
    Personally, I use a specific color tag for B&W variants and created a smart folder based on this color tag. It works pretty fine.
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  • jacques
    All,

    thanks for your replies. I did not think about a specific color tag for B&W photos - I use color tags to highlight edition steps of a photo.

    I thought there would be a simpler way (drag & drop only specific variants of a photo into an album) but it looks like this is not possible; a bit of a pity.

    Thanks again all, really appreciate your quick answers!
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    The bottom-line is that in Capture One, multiple variants of a single capture always travel together to a different folder or album. The only exception is a Smart Album.
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  • jacques
    Understood, thanks Paul.
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  • Marko Rosic
    I just had the issue with this "feature" that also resulted with accidental deletion of all styled variants when I thought I just removed them from album... oh well...

    If there could be a vote on this "feature" I can guarantee that users would pretty much vote against it as it is totally unintuitive. User should be able to control these things, and having to assign color labels, keywords or whatever just to display/filter one variant is kind of unnecessary. It's like having to use a heavy machinery when you just need a hammer.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Marko, I agree with your that there is some work to do in this area.
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  • Marko Rosic
    Wow, that's very good to hear 😊

    Thanks!
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