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Nikon D850?

Alan Disler
I would have posted this to Technical Support, but I seem to get into an endless loop of re-logging in, so I will ask here if C1 Pro will be supporting fully the Nikon D850 upon its release?

Thanks.

-Alan D
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  • Petr Odehnal
    For D5 was preliminary support released in about two weeks, so let's hope, that D850 will be also added soon.
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  • Benjamin Liddle
    FWIW, if you experience an endless login loop, likely the issue is an automated log-in manager (such as Dashlane) which is incompatible with our site. Logging in manually should do the trick.
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  • Christian Gruner
    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    I would have posted this to Technical Support, but I seem to get into an endless loop of re-logging in, so I will ask here if C1 Pro will be supporting fully the Nikon D850 upon its release?

    Thanks.

    -Alan D


    We are aware of the D850. However, no date can be given, as we do not comment on future product development
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  • alessandro ceccnoi
    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    I would have posted this to Technical Support, but I seem to get into an endless loop of re-logging in, so I will ask here if C1 Pro will be supporting fully the Nikon D850 upon its release?

    Thanks.

    -Alan D


    Of course they will. What makes you think that C1 would not offer support for what appears to be one of next year run away success in cameras? But can we at least let the D850 be released ? LOL

    I was waiting for a post like this. Just as I am waiting for a New Sierra post the day it is released 😄 like clock work every year
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  • Alan Disler
    [quote="alececco" wrote:
    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    I would have posted this to Technical Support, but I seem to get into an endless loop of re-logging in, so I will ask here if C1 Pro will be supporting fully the Nikon D850 upon its release?

    Thanks.

    -Alan D


    Of course they will. What makes you think that C1 would not offer support for what appears to be one of next year run away success in cameras? But can we at least let the D850 be released ? LOL

    I was waiting for a post like this. Just as I am waiting for a New Sierra post the day it is released 😄 like clock work every year



    For your information, I have professional reasons for knowing when support for the D850 will be forthcoming, as in "Do I shoot with the new camera on paid jobs now or wait?" So glad you "were waiting" for my post. I, however, thought I had left the realm of snarks and smartasses when I joined this forum.

    Apparently not.

    -Alan D
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  • Ian Wilson
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    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    [quote="alececco" wrote:
    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    I would have posted this to Technical Support, but I seem to get into an endless loop of re-logging in, so I will ask here if C1 Pro will be supporting fully the Nikon D850 upon its release?

    Thanks.

    -Alan D


    Of course they will. What makes you think that C1 would not offer support for what appears to be one of next year run away success in cameras? But can we at least let the D850 be released ? LOL

    I was waiting for a post like this. Just as I am waiting for a New Sierra post the day it is released 😄 like clock work every year



    For your information, I have professional reasons for knowing when support for the D850 will be forthcoming, as in "Do I shoot with the new camera on paid jobs now or wait?" So glad you "were waiting" for my post. I, however, thought I had left the realm of snarks and smartasses when I joined this forum.

    Apparently not.

    -Alan D

    Alan - Phase One can be presumed to be expecting to support a camera like the D850. However it appears that the release date of the camera here in the UK (I don't know about anywhere else) is not until 7 September. Phase One always base their camera support on having got hold of one of the cameras to test for themselves, not just basing their support on the manufacturer's SDK. So the process of being able to offer support will no doubt take a little while.

    The reason for the snarky comments is that we do get a fair amount of posts in the forums here demanding to know when a new camera or an OS update that hasn't happened yet will be supported, on a fairly predictable basis. But I realise that your motivation in asking is a professional one, and "snarky" comments don't much help.

    Phase One always tell us that they won't comment in advance on future developments of the software, but it is a safe bet that they will support the camera. However you would probably be wise not to rely on support being available before it is, when it comes to mission-critical work.

    It sounds like a great camera (but beyond my budget!).

    Regards

    Ian
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  • Grant Hodgeon
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:

    we do get a fair amount of posts in the forums here demanding to know when a new camera or an OS update that hasn't happened yet will be supported, on a fairly predictable basis


    Then meet the demand.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    AFAIK, Ian doesn't belong to the Phase One team.....
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  • Ian Wilson
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    [quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
    AFAIK, Ian doesn't belong to the Phase One team.....

    No, I don't.

    Ian
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  • Ian Wilson
    Moderator
    Top Commenter
    [quote="photoGrant" wrote:
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:

    we do get a fair amount of posts in the forums here demanding to know when a new camera or an OS update that hasn't happened yet will be supported, on a fairly predictable basis


    Then meet the demand.

    Well...

    I am no spokesman for Phase One. But the kinds of posts that come along are like "Why doesn't Capture One support camera X or operating system Y yet? Program Z already does!" The answer is always that Phase One like to do their own testing and base their product development on that. You can predict that they will not be the first to bring out their support for something new, as a result. On the other hand, their approach seems to pay off if the outcome is that the software is better than the competitors. (Presumably we think it is better than the competitors, because we could otherwise go and use something else. In my limited experience, I do prefer Capture One to the other things I have tried.)

    Ian
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  • SFA
    [quote="photoGrant" wrote:
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:

    we do get a fair amount of posts in the forums here demanding to know when a new camera or an OS update that hasn't happened yet will be supported, on a fairly predictable basis


    Then meet the demand.


    Nice idea.

    Given all of the variables involved, and assuming there is a known and verified demand, how would one be aboe to do that in advance.

    What if having promised a date based on a manufacturer's promise of available product, the test devices fail to appear or, perhaps even worse, turn out to be very poor examples?

    What do you announce as the reason for your failure to deliver? "Sorry, we had so many problems with this product that we do not feel able to release the update at this time."? That would do down well in the industry.

    It may be frustrating for early adopters but in reality, other then their own hardware, I see no reason why Phase should commit to rushing out an update under circumstances that are not likely to be entirely under their control.

    That said, once or twice new model releases have been included just about at the point of release. Presumably they were shared early by the manufacturers involved.


    Grant
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  • Peter Grüner
    Every new camera, every new OS the same old stories that Phase One must commit and comment on timelines. No - they do not. Other companies follow the same path.
    Phase One is aiming to deliver the best quality in their software for every single camera that they support and that requires some time and testing once the camera is released. If you believe that software XYZ is doing better than stick with XYZ.
    Will I get a D850? Very likely. Would I love to have support for an early adopter? Of course. Will I be happy with CO once it supports the D850? I am pretty sure I will.

    Peter
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  • alessandro ceccnoi
    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    [quote="alececco" wrote:
    [quote="Focuspuller" wrote:
    I would have posted this to Technical Support, but I seem to get into an endless loop of re-logging in, so I will ask here if C1 Pro will be supporting fully the Nikon D850 upon its release?

    Thanks.

    -Alan D


    Of course they will. What makes you think that C1 would not offer support for what appears to be one of next year run away success in cameras? But can we at least let the D850 be released ? LOL

    I was waiting for a post like this. Just as I am waiting for a New Sierra post the day it is released 😄 like clock work every year



    For your information, I have professional reasons for knowing when support for the D850 will be forthcoming, as in "Do I shoot with the new camera on paid jobs now or wait?" So glad you "were waiting" for my post. I, however, thought I had left the realm of snarks and smartasses when I joined this forum.

    Apparently not.

    -Alan D


    Oh for Christ sake, the camera is not even available to NPS.There are none to be had at the moment, if you are not NPS you will not see the camera probably until October... what professional reason most you have? Shoot with what you got. The world has not ended just because Nikon announced a new camera.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    No, the world will not gonna end because Phase One needs loooong times to fully (!) support new cameras. Like the Fuji X-T2 and it's complicated (?) compressed RAWs. I waited a year for that support... 🙄

    I understand it's boring to read always these kind of questions - but contrary to the X-T2 niche, I think we gonna see a flood of D850 orders, if it really delivers all promises. And it has nearly half a dozen different RAWs onboard. I recall the D7100 was long time not fully supported for it's cropped RAWs. The D850 will have a couple more: L, M, S and squarish and 5:4.

    I really hope, at least compressed 14bit RAW full-size will not need too long to become supported.
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  • Richard Irecky
    The camera will certainly be supported, what I'd like to know is whether we'll get it as part of CO1 10.x or it will be part of v11. I'm on v9 right now and would really like to avoid paying twice for an upgrade
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  • Tino Nettling
    I just got an email saying that my cameradealer receives the first batch most likely tomorrow and I will getting mine from the first batch.
    Of course I'm now excited and want to edit the images with CO - so I can just hope it won't take them ages to support the RAW format

    Adobe released today an CameraRaw update wich supports the D850 , and there is Nikons View-NXi wich can at least show the images
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  • photo by FA
    [quote="Riss" wrote:
    The camera will certainly be supported, what I'd like to know is whether we'll get it as part of CO1 10.x or it will be part of v11. I'm on v9 right now and would really like to avoid paying twice for an upgrade


    I'd be surprised if PO publishes a v11 now as v10 is pretty new. I am pretty sure it will be supported in one of the v10.x
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  • John Doe
    [quote="fatihayoglu" wrote:
    [quote="Riss" wrote:
    The camera will certainly be supported, what I'd like to know is whether we'll get it as part of CO1 10.x or it will be part of v11. I'm on v9 right now and would really like to avoid paying twice for an upgrade


    I'd be surprised if PO publishes a v11 now as v10 is pretty new. I am pretty sure it will be supported in one of the v10.x

    V10 was released on December, 1st 2016, so not really pretty new. Major versions of Capture One have had an approx. 12-month release cycle. So v11 might come sooner than you think.

    Capture One v8 Released Sep. 16, 2014
    Capture One v9 Released Nov. 30, 2015
    Capture One v10.0 Released Dec. 1, 2016

    Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_One
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  • Grant Hodgeon
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    [quote="photoGrant" wrote:
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:

    we do get a fair amount of posts in the forums here demanding to know when a new camera or an OS update that hasn't happened yet will be supported, on a fairly predictable basis


    Then meet the demand.


    Nice idea.

    Given all of the variables involved, and assuming there is a known and verified demand, how would one be aboe to do that in advance.

    What if having promised a date based on a manufacturer's promise of available product, the test devices fail to appear or, perhaps even worse, turn out to be very poor examples?

    What do you announce as the reason for your failure to deliver? "Sorry, we had so many problems with this product that we do not feel able to release the update at this time."? That would do down well in the industry.

    It may be frustrating for early adopters but in reality, other then their own hardware, I see no reason why Phase should commit to rushing out an update under circumstances that are not likely to be entirely under their control.

    That said, once or twice new model releases have been included just about at the point of release. Presumably they were shared early by the manufacturers involved.


    Grant


    I should have put a little more effort into my post as my point was missed. I do not expect Phase to do the impossible. But some better official response knowing these waves consistently happen per camera, per os, etc - is a way to avoid the inevitable tit for tat we get here. When Apple seed's their first beta to developers everyone's asking whether there's support yet... And then you folks come in with paragraphs of the same diatribe. Again, meet the questions before they're asked instead of being silent when they are. That's my point. I guess it's hard to draw comparisons, but when you see how developers at companies like Silverstack, or Blackmagic, or even the fella's over at Chronosync... How they communicate with their users and handle an ever changing landscape of technology (the old adage of never upgrade, etc is dead in the water for most freelancers)... It's just a courtesy if anything.

    I mean, isn't the beta program opt-in for everyone? i.e. you can answer this yourself very quickly...

    And yes, there's a section of professionals who would take kindly to a more technical communicative line. And if any one of you tell me to file a support case... 👿
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  • Grant Hodgeon
    [quote="Riss" wrote:
    The camera will certainly be supported, what I'd like to know is whether we'll get it as part of CO1 10.x or it will be part of v11. I'm on v9 right now and would really like to avoid paying twice for an upgrade


    You should have a way to know, and if you are able to opt-in to the beta program to at least look at the release notes, you can find out.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    My d850 is already here and I'll put it to work as soon as possible. I'd like to know what the capture one plans are to understand how to behave. Should I rent photoshop for a month or two, or is the upgrade upcoming? Thank you
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  • John Doe
    Ask Phase One (link in my signature), but I doubt they will tell you.
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  • Richard Irecky
    [quote="photoGrant" wrote:
    [quote="Riss" wrote:
    The camera will certainly be supported, what I'd like to know is whether we'll get it as part of CO1 10.x or it will be part of v11. I'm on v9 right now and would really like to avoid paying twice for an upgrade


    You should have a way to know, and if you are able to opt-in to the beta program to at least look at the release notes, you can find out.

    thx for the tip! 😉
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  • Gary Irwin
    I recall waiting few weeks for Phase One to update C1P for the D500, so it may be a few weeks until they add D850 support, though I hope not -- I'm currently sitting on thousand images to process from last weekend and am anxious to have it supported (though I'm not a pro).

    I see that Adobe has already added support to their products but I don't think they actually do all that much other than add the camera to a database, whereas Phase One actually tweaks the default pre-processor for optimum results for each camera which can take a little time to analyze. But since the D850 seems to be behaving like a scaled-up D500 (in my experience) hopefully it won't take much work.
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  • Peter Grüner
    Well, should I call myself lucky that I did not get one of the first D850's here in Germany or unlucky that I will not be one of the first one getting hands on experience with this new toy? Well, I could live with both and I am pretty sure that Phase One is already working hard supporting new toys.

    Peter
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  • Petr Odehnal
    I'm meanwhile using NX-D to play with RAW pictures from new toy and I would say it's good to have this experience once per few years. It helps me calm down, when C1 upsets me with something - I have experience, that it could be much much worse! 😄
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  • Gary Irwin
    [quote="FPL" wrote:
    I'm meanwhile using NX-D to play with RAW pictures from new toy and I would say it's good to have this experience once per few years. It helps me calm down, when C1 upsets me with something - I have experience, that it could be much much worse! 😄


    😂 So true!

    C1P has it's warts, but ANY software made by Nikon is an absolute horror. 🤓
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  • Jim_DK
    I'll just leave this here...

    viewtopic.php?f=68&t=26620
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Jim_DK" wrote:
    I'll just leave this here...

    http://forum.phaseone.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=26620


    Sweet!
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  • dredlew
    [quote="Jim_DK" wrote:
    I'll just leave this here...

    viewtopic.php?f=68&t=26620


    This is possibly the fastest support for a third-party camera I have seen so far in C1.
    I can only commend this! Great job, thank you.
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