Sony Nex-5 and Nex-3 support
Is Capture One going to support these cameras? If so, will it be soon?
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Sony's are tricky... everything is unique about them so Third Party software doesn't always get a chance to access the specifics of the files. It be best to contact Sony and suggest that they allow us to access the files, if they say it's OK then I don't see why we wouldn't... barring some technical barrier on such a "unique" camera/cmos sensor. 0 -
a curious answer 🤓
why support other RAW-converters (bibble, silkypic etc.) the NEX-files yet, and why is this a problem for CO1 ??? ☹️0 -
anyone else interested on support of NEX-5 RAW-files ?
than please open a support ticket, so PhaseOne can realize the need in supporting the NEX-cameras. Only, if they get several request they will think about supporting the NEX-generation. So gentlemen, start your tickets ❗️0 -
[quote="big_lindi" wrote:
why support other RAW-converters (bibble, silkypic etc.) the NEX-files yet, and why is this a problem for CO1 ??? ☹️
I can't speak for other software, only ours.0 -
When I purchased the Pro-License for about 300 € I thought, its an implicitness, that future RAW-formats will be supported regulary from Phase one. Seems, it was a great delusion and I have to go back to my old raw-worklow only 3 month using CO1. I´m not willing to use CO1 for my DSLR-RAW-files and parallel a second software for the NEX-files. Furthermore if I buy a new camera I will not be sure, if this modell is good enough for Phase One. 300 € for nothing, thanks a lot.
I thinks, its an icredilbe ignorance, if Phase One supports only the formats from special producers. Not at last, while the NEX is minded strong, also in professional circles. Many hardware-manufacturers and software-developers have apprehended this. Only phase One is sitting on his hight throne and is spitting down on the cheesy users.
It would nice, if you could point out your strategy on your homepage: e.g.: "only for selected !! sony, panasonic and other cheesy users please stay out". So many users could save money, worktime and anger NOT licensing CO1.0 -
Support for the NEX raw files would be very nice, because that would be the reason for me, to buy a Nex camera, but I only wanna use Capture One as a raw converter.
Regards
Jeff C.0 -
[quote="big_lindi" wrote:
Only phase One is sitting on his hight throne and is spitting down on the cheesy users.
It would nice, if you could point out your strategy on your homepage: e.g.: "only for selected !! sony, panasonic and other cheesy users please stay out". So many users could save money, worktime and anger NOT licensing CO1.
The Release Notes clearly document which cameras are supported in any given release.
If you choose to buy a licence on the - essentially unfounded - assumption that Phase One will support a given camera at some point in the future, you really need to accept personal responsibility for that decision - it's not Phase One's fault that you've chosen to guess that everything will be OK...
For clarity, here's the full list of currently-supported cameras in the latest release:RAW file support
Capture One 5.2 DB supports RAW files from the following digital backs/cameras:
Phase One: P 65+, P 40+, P 45+, P 30+, P 21+, P 25+, P 20+, Achromatic+, P 45, P 30, P 25, P 21, P 20, H 25, H 20, H 101, H 10, H 5, LightPhase.
Mamiya: DM56, DM40, DM33, DM28, DM22, M31, M22, M18.
Leaf: Aptus-II 10R, Aptus-II 10, Aptus-II 8, Aptus-II 7, Aptus-II 6, Aptus-II 5, AFi-II 10, AFi-II 7, AFi-II 6.
Additionally Capture One 5.2 / 5.2 PRO supports RAW files from the following digital backs/cameras:
Leaf: Aptus 75S, Aptus 65S, Aptus 54S, AFi 7, AFi 6, AFi 5, Aptus 75, Aptus 65, Aptus 22, Aptus 17.
Mamiya: MZD, ZD Back.
Canon: 1D Mark IV, 1Ds Mark III, 1D Mark III, 1D Mark II N, 1Ds Mark II, 1D Mark II, 1Ds, 1D, 7D, 5D Mark II, 5D, 50D, 40D, 30D, 20D, 10D, 550D/Rebel T2i, 500D/Rebel T1i, 450D/Rebel XSi, 400D/Rebel XTi, 350D/Rebel XT, 300D/Rebel, 1000D, D60, D30, Pro 1, G11, G10, G9, G6, G5, G3, G2, S90.
Epson: R-D1s, R-D1.
Fuji: S5 Pro, S3 Pro, S2 Pro.
Konica
Minolta: Alpha 5 D / Maxxum 5 D / Dynax 5 D, Alpha 7 D / Maxxum 7 D / Dynax 7 D, A1, A2.
Leica: X1, M9, M8, D-LUX 4, Digilux 3, Digital Module R for R8 and R9 cameras.
Nikon: D3s, D3X, D3, D2Xs, D2X, D2Hs, D2H, D1X, D1H, D700, D300s, D300, D200, D100, D90, D80, D70s, D70, D60, D50, D40X, D40, D5000, D3000, P6000.
Olympus: E-PL1, E-620, E-3, E-520, E-510, E-450, E-P1, E-P2, E-420, E-410, E-500, E-1, E-10, E-20, E-30, E-330, E-300, E-400, C-7070, C-8080.
Panasonic: G1, GH1, GF1.
Pentax: K20D, K10D, K7, KX, K200D, K110D, K100D Super, K100D, K2000/K-m, *istDL2, *istDL, *istD, *istDS2, *istDS. Only PEF files supported.
Sony: DSLR-A900, DSLR-A850, DSLR-A700, DSLR-A550, DSLR-A500, DSLR-A380, DSLR-A350, DSLR-A330, DSLR-A300, DSLR-A230, DSLR-A200, DSLR-A100, DSC-R1.
Adobe: DNG 1.2 (raw DNG support only). The DNG support is not optimized for specific cameras.
Oh - and on the subject of other converters providing support: although LR 3 "supports" NEX files, it's not very good at it...0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
The Release Notes clearly document which cameras are supported in any given release.
If you choose to buy a licence on the - essentially unfounded - assumption that Phase One will support your camera at some point in the future, you really need to accept personal responsibility for that decision - it's not Phase One's fault that you've chosen to make that assumption.
Thanks for your friendly instructions. I´m quite able to read the RAW-support list BEFORE buying a license. I did so cause CO1 supports my Sony alpha 700. Should I in future buy cameras only on this list ?????
But whats going on ?? Shall I ask CO1 before buying a new camera, whether the camera is good enough for CO1 support ??
Again its ridiculous and arrogant to ignore a modell like the NEX. In nearly all reviews of this years photokina the NEX is mentioned as on of the highlights of the exibition. In this sector Canon and Nikon aren´t named, cause they not even gave any statement much less showed any camera models or plans.
And again: if CO1 has no interest in other brands except Canon, Nikon and Leica, please name it out. I don´t wanna justify, using NO Canon camera but a Sony.0 -
Folks from Phase One have been in these forums before telling us what goes into supporting a camera, and by no means is it a simple task. They purchase the camera through retail channels, and develop their support, and profiles from scratch for each camera. The process can take days or weeks depending on the manufacturer, but when they support a camera, the IQ is flawless, and far better than other converters. So why do so many people complain about the time line when you know they take longer, but the wait will be worth it.
Out of curiosity, can someone from Phase tell us what prompted the Nikon revision of many of the RAW files in the 5.2 release. I am grateful, and do notice the difference, but like to know what bought it on.0 -
Paul,
I dont´t wanna complain about a time line. But CO1-team pointed out clearly in my support question that actually there´s no plan to support the NEX anyway. They say actually I would be the only user, interested in the NEX-support, and seems, that´s not worth to do it. They need more support requests, than they will think ab out NEX-support.
Again I think it should be an implicitness, that new popular camera models were supported without a need of a couple of support questions. That is what I expect from a good support.0 -
I did not realize you made a support request. I really like the NEX cameras, and am thinking about purchasing one, but the the RAW support is an issue for me as well. I think Sony has a hit on their hands, it is a great camera while traveling not wanting to lug around big DSLR bodies, and lenses. 0 -
[quote="big_lindi" wrote:
But CO1-team pointed out clearly in my support question that actually there´s no plan to support the NEX anyway. They say actually I would be the only user, interested in the NEX-support, and seems, that´s not worth to do it.
Just so anyone checking in on this thread isn't mislead, I would like to point out that the statement above is not a representation of the correspondence with Phase One. The exact response from Phase One to this user is below;
"I will request that the R&D department look into supporting this camera. Although you have suggested that perhaps you are not alone in this need we have yet to receive any other request to support this camera. At present, you are alone in this request."
At no point did we suggest or otherwise convey that we have no plans to support this system nor did we ever suggest that it is "not worth it". If enough people request this camera be supported we will certainly give development more focus. Bottom line, if you want to see this camera supported please create a support case and let us know.0 -
[quote="Paul1921" wrote:
Out of curiosity, can someone from Phase tell us what prompted the Nikon revision of many of the RAW files in the 5.2 release. I am grateful, and do notice the difference, but like to know what bought it on.
Updates in Nikon NX really lit the fire under us. It seems that Nikon Software and recent Camera Firmware updates drastically changed the render of the RAW files. What was a perfect representation when the Nikon's were first released has drifted with Nikon's updates. That being the case it was time to revamp.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
At no point did we suggest or otherwise convey that we have no plans to support this system nor did we ever suggest that it is "not worth it".
Sorry, that was my "interpretation".[quote="Drew " wrote:
If enough people request this camera be supported we will certainly give development more focus. Bottom line, if you want to see this camera supported please create a support case and let us know.
Hmm, sounds for me again: actually no interest in supporting. How many support cases have to be created before you will give a model "more focus" ?0 -
[quote="big_lindi" wrote:
Hmm, sounds for me again: actually no interest in supporting. How many support cases have to be created before you will give a model "more focus" ?
More than one.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
[quote="Paul1921" wrote:
Out of curiosity, can someone from Phase tell us what prompted the Nikon revision of many of the RAW files in the 5.2 release. I am grateful, and do notice the difference, but like to know what bought it on.
Updates in Nikon NX really lit the fire under us. It seems that Nikon Software and recent Camera Firmware updates drastically changed the render of the RAW files. What was a perfect representation when the Nikon's were first released has drifted with Nikon's updates. That being the case it was time to revamp.
Thank you Drew for the information. That is really good to know.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
[quote="big_lindi" wrote:
Hmm, sounds for me again: actually no interest in supporting. How many support cases have to be created before you will give a model "more focus" ?
More than one.
Thats great and makes me hope 😂
P.S.: Meanwhile I use my Silkypix Pro Version. There you don´t need any support case for RAW-support of actual camera models 🤓0 -
[quote="big_lindi" wrote:
... I use my Silkypix Pro Version. There you don´t need any support case for RAW-support of actual camera models 🤓
I can't speak for their workflow, only our own. Although in looking into their company specifics it also seems that they aren't developing Lens, Camera and Digital hardware either. They also seem to have had some delay in supporting the Sony NEX camera from whence it was released... perhaps in that time it was suggested by there customer base? Hard to say.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
... perhaps in that time it was suggested by there customer base? Hard to say.
Drew,
I don´t think so, cause support ist really difficult for Silkypix actually. The Japanese guys refer to the us rep. UK-distributors. And the US distributors and their forum are down since many weeks 🤓
One reason, I planed to change to CO1 ☹️
But I think that´s tooo off topic. So let´s wait for further NEX-users creating support tickets to Phase One 😉
Tobias0 -
Add me too to the "Need NEX Support" list ............ the Firmware upgrade has improved the handling manifiold and these cams are now a Viable alternative to the Noisy , DR limited Micro 4/3 stuff for use as a compact Pro camera (the sensor is superb) 0 -
I am a owner of a Sony Nex 5 a would love very much for Capture One to support it RAW format. I have got lots of images all waiting to be edited.
Regards
Matt0 -
Hmmm,
tried to covert the NEX-files in DNG. But CO1 doesn´t like the converted DNG-files. They all show the same false colours (diffuse pink) as in the Sony-cARW-files some time ago.
Pity 😕0 -
You want more than one user request? Here you get it from me.
I wonder do c1 people know that nex is the no. 1 selling camera in Japan and opt to stay in their comfort zone.0 -
[quote="Nigel192" wrote:
You want more than one user request? Here you get it from me.
I wonder do c1 people know that nex is the no. 1 selling camera in Japan and opt to stay in their comfort zone.
In case you missed it, which you probably did...
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Thanks, Paul 0 -
Here another nex 5 supporter....
Ciao
Stefano0 -
Me too please!!!!!! 0 -
We are putting finishing touches on NEX support.
Yes it is on its way, but this will of course be in Capture One 6.x and not in v4 or 5.
Since this thread is in the CO 5/4 forum it has run it course and there is nothing more to say.
Closing this thread here.0
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