PLEASE PHASE ONE ENABLE SESSIONS IN C1 Express
Dear Phase One,
I use C1E because it is a great and solid software with all the features I need but...it would be so much better if you please could enable the marvellous "sessions" feature in C1E. Why is this only possible in C1P? I don't think that you will lose possible C1P buyers to the cheaper C1E when implementing the "sessions" feature inside express but I think you will really get a lot of potential new customers who will buy C1E!!! In many cases using "sessions" is much more comfortable and much more practical than using the catalogue function. As I wrote before C1E is a great converter but with "sessions" it would be a superb one for those who don't need the C1P feature's like tethered shooting and brushes e.g.
I hope you'll think about it and it would be very very awesome (not only for me) if this feature would be enabled in C1E within one of the next updates.
Sincerely yours,
Daniel
I use C1E because it is a great and solid software with all the features I need but...it would be so much better if you please could enable the marvellous "sessions" feature in C1E. Why is this only possible in C1P? I don't think that you will lose possible C1P buyers to the cheaper C1E when implementing the "sessions" feature inside express but I think you will really get a lot of potential new customers who will buy C1E!!! In many cases using "sessions" is much more comfortable and much more practical than using the catalogue function. As I wrote before C1E is a great converter but with "sessions" it would be a superb one for those who don't need the C1P feature's like tethered shooting and brushes e.g.
I hope you'll think about it and it would be very very awesome (not only for me) if this feature would be enabled in C1E within one of the next updates.
Sincerely yours,
Daniel
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I think C1 Express matches up better with Lightroom - even though you can tether in LR.
Sessions and tethering work well together - especially for photo shoots, clients on set, etc. in C1P
C1E w/o sessions and tethering gives you the tools for great raw conversions of your images and if you are not tethering, the catalog might make sense to organize your images.0 -
[quote="Edward51" wrote:
I think C1 Express matches up better with Lightroom - even though you can tether in LR.
Sessions and tethering work well together - especially for photo shoots, clients on set, etc. in C1P
C1E w/o sessions and tethering gives you the tools for great raw conversions of your images and if you are not tethering, the catalog might make sense to organize your images.
Sessions are working well even without shooting tethered - in my opinion they are working better than the catalogue in every situation. I do a lot of project based work and therefore sessions are much more comfortable than the catalogue. Now you can say that I should buy C1P but I don't need the tethered option, the brush tool and so on because I'm only doing the basic raw development in C1 and then go to PS (so express is enough for me). And this is the next point which is better solved in sessions - the exchange between C1P (working with sessions) and PS is far better than the exchange between C1E (working with the catalogue) and PS. In C1P I can open the picture in PS as a tiff and save it after tweaking in the C1P output folder, this is not possible when using the catalogue in C1E.
And because of that - please enable sessions in C1E!!!0 -
yeah sessions are great - a really great way to work with images I think.
So for you maybe you should just buy C1P, your extra $ will help future development.. Nobody wants to use the catalog feature - right?
"In C1P I can open the picture in PS as a tiff and save it after tweaking in the C1P output folder, this is not possible when using the catalogue in C1E. "
I don't understand this - why should tiffs be any different whether its from a catalog or a sessions. PS doesn't care where it came from.0 -
[quote="Edward51" wrote:
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I don't understand this - why should tiffs be any different whether its from a catalog or a sessions. PS doesn't care where it came from.
Because in C1P I can open the raw as a tiff directly in PS without exporting it first like I have to do it in C1E. And when I'm done with the picture I can save it as a tiff straight in the sessions output folder of C1P - in C1E I have to export it into a folder then it is opened by PS and after tweaking and saving it I have to re-import the picture(s) with the C1E import dialogue (even if I saved it in my original folder) because there is no output folder or anything similar like it is in C1P....so you are right when you say that I should buy the pro version...except they enable sessions in C1E...0 -
what do you mean when you say - you open a raw as a tiff in PS from C1P w/o exporting it first? you need to convert the raw into a tiff. 0 -
[quote="Edward51" wrote:
what do you mean when you say - you open a raw as a tiff in PS from C1P w/o exporting it first? you need to convert the raw into a tiff.
In C1P I open the export dialogue and send the raw file as a 16bit tiff directly to PS ("open with" option) where it is opened and ready to work on it. After that the tiff is saved directly in the C1P output folder of the session I'm working with. From there I can view it, export it or print it whenever I want with C1P. For me this is one the biggest advantages when using sessions!
In the C1E export dialogue I first have to choose a folder - usually my original folder because there is no output folder like in sessions - to save the picture before I can open it in PS (using the "open with" option). And when I'm done with PS I'm saving it into the same folder I had to choose before (my original folder). Then I have to re-import the finished tiff into my catalogue folder/original folder with the import dialogue of C1E so that I can use it again in C1E. For me this is one of the biggest drawbacks of the catalogue function. Or is there something I have overlooked...?!
Hope this explains it better.0 -
Lightroom's catalogue works the same way - you need to sync the catalog to see new changes. I use LR's catalog for family pics and snapshots but use C1P sessions for jobs.
I've never used the "open in PS" checkbox, just process tiffs and open in PS later as I'm ususally processing more than one image at a time.
There are sometimes 10% off coupons around for C1P. Also buying from places like Capture Integration or Digital Transitions gives you access to phone tech support.0 -
[quote="Edward51" wrote:
Lightroom's catalogue works the same way - you need to sync the catalog to see new changes. I use LR's catalog for family pics and snapshots but use C1P sessions for jobs.
I've never used the "open in PS" checkbox, just process tiffs and open in PS later as I'm ususally processing more than one image at a time.
There are sometimes 10% off coupons around for C1P. Also buying from places like Capture Integration or Digital Transitions gives you access to phone tech support.
LR catalogue does not work the same way. If you select a image (or images) in LR and click to edit in PS the TIFFs, PSDs or JPEGs (whatever you have selected in your preferences) are created, added to the catalogue and sent directly to PS to be edited. Once you are done editing and Save the image(s) (note I said Save, not Save As) your changes are reflected almost immediately in the LR catalogue without needing to sync anything manually. The only times you would need to sync anything manually is if you export out of LR without adding to the catalogue or if while in PS you performed a Save As command.0 -
shows you how much time I work in LR. I usually work on images outside of LR then when going back into LR I have to sync.I don't like the way LR handles color so I use PS for just about everything (using C1P for raws of course), just use the LR catalog as its fast compared to something like Bridge. 0 -
Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about the way LR handles color. I use LR quite a lot. There are a lot of things I like and don't like about LR. I have found in my photography that the raw processor I use is dictated by the subject I photograph. I find that, for the most part, if you want accurate colors (or as close as possible to what you see or remember seeing) LR coupled with a custom dng profile by using something like the xrite color passport is superior to C1. If I could get this type of control in C1 along with a more mature (to put it nicely) cataloging feature I would probably move away from LR. But, for now, I am bouncing between the two. 0 -
in the past I've felt that skin tones in fashion images were too red or unnatural in LR, whereas (even the default) C1P's color profiles were a more natural look.
on other images like landscapes - C1P profiles feel less "digital" looking than LR.
But color perception is subjective of course. Also in my industry - everyone uses C1P.
Plus I've been using it since version 3 that I wouldn't want to use LR's workflow.0 -
I definitely agree with you on the skin tone issues. By creating a custom color profile using xrite's color passport skin tones seem to look much better than the default, much closer to C1. My comfort level with C1 isn't what it is with LR simply because I have been using LR exclusively since the first version and have only been using C1 since version 6. I tried C1 a couple of times around versions 3 and 4 but never bit. I'm learning how to get my images to look the way I want or how I am used to in C1 now though. 0 -
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about C1P's workflow vs LR: I always customize my C1P workspace - removing everything I do not need. I have a library tab with the library and adjustments, a quick tab with almost all capture and color tools, another one with lens corrections, noise, moire, etc and finally a process tab. I try and minimize the need to switch views while working and stay in one tab for most of the time.0
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