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New MacBook Retina and Capture One

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  • MidWestTech
    I have had the opportunity to play with C1Pro in Mavericks a bit and it has generally been okay. There are actions that cause the program to quit unexpectedly which have started to be documented in another posting: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=15219

    While I think that I could get by using it for the time being, I know that my workflow is not your workflow. I might never use a certain feature that you depend heavily on, and a coworker, customer, or client could come along and have expectations that you or I would not be able to deliver on because of some of the current issues. I have a feeling that, like myself, you don't like looking like a putz on set or on location and ,IMHO, the best way to avoid that is to keep unsupported and lightly tested software and processes as far away from a production environment as possible.

    If you are buying a new machine, it is going to have Mavericks on it. There are sometimes small windows of time that allow people to buy a new machine with an old OS on it. For example, a small number of MBP Retina models shipped with Lion instead of Mountain Lion. This time around, that will not be the case, all of them are going to ship with Mavericks which means you will be buying a machine that does not yet officially support one of the main pieces of software you plan on using.

    Essentially, you have the choice to 1) Wait for Phase to officially support it and then buy the new model 2) Buy the prior model 3) Risk it and buy the new one right away

    Personally, I would lean toward 1 or 2 and avoid doing 3. Until you see people stating that they are running Mavericks for days at a time with C1Pro and are experiencing no more issues than they are currently are experiencing in Lion or Mountain Lion, you are running the risks inherent with being a pioneer. In this case, it will most likely be smarter to play it safe because the advantages in Mavericks are vastly overshadowed by the risks.
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  • PhaseoneUser55657
    I am sorry, but I give PhaseOne nothing but crap if there is issues with CO7 and the new OS. First if they are any kind of Dev house they have an Apple Dev connection license and MUST of had the chance to use the Beta's and GM. So they should be fully testing with the New OS. (Actually they should be doing this on every Point release Apple releases). So that gives them two options, put up a notice that CO7.X.X does not work with OS or Point release, or on the day the OS is released, release an upgrade.

    Sorry if I sound a little peeved, but I have put up with the REALLY BUGGY versions of 7.X, changed cameras and the new camera is not supported and all they respond with is you have to talk to your camera manufacture to give us support. (Sorry not my job.) I cannot even get it to work when converted to DNG. While Adobe, and Apple's products have no issues.
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  • MidWestTech
    [quote="PhaseoneUser55657" wrote:
    First if they are any kind of Dev house they have an Apple Dev connection license and MUST of had the chance to use the Beta's and GM. So they should be fully testing with the New OS.


    They have been testing, but testing can sometimes be like pissing in the wind if the OS developer decides to make frequent unannounced changes, as has been the case with Apple. Until you have done it, and I am not claiming to have done a ton of it - but I have done some, it is hard to grasp the endless frustrations and complexities.

    [quote="PhaseoneUser55657" wrote:
    So that gives them two options, put up a notice that CO7.X.X does not work with OS or Point release


    I thought they already did that... Go back and look at the download page. Nowhere on there do they speak of any compatibility with OSX 10.9 so it would be safe to assume it is not fully supported.

    [quote="PhaseoneUser55657" wrote:
    I have put up with the REALLY BUGGY versions of 7.X


    If you think 7 is buggy, you should have seen 4.

    [quote="PhaseoneUser55657" wrote:
    changed cameras and the new camera is not supported and all they respond with is you have to talk to your camera manufacture to give us support. (Sorry not my job.)


    What camera is it? Some companies have not been forthcoming with SDKs (Leica) or purposely delay the release because they think in the meantime they will win people away from third party apps to their own, or who knows why else. As a customer of the the company you bought the camera from and Phase, who supplied your software, it is their job to do what they can to make the tools work for you. But you need to realize something -Asking Phase to support a camera they do not have an SDK for is asking them to put themselves in a very dicey legal situation and asking them to shift massive amounts of labor toward supporting one camera instead of knocking out software issues that everyone is suffering with. When they are telling you to lean on the camera manufacturer, they are telling you to ask the camera manufacturer to do their job in supporting you as their customer, that's all. If you want your camera to be more "open", it is on the camera company to do that, not on a third party software developer.
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  • Christian Gruner
    [quote="PhaseoneUser55657" wrote:
    I am sorry, but I give PhaseOne nothing but crap if there is issues with CO7 and the new OS. First if they are any kind of Dev house they have an Apple Dev connection license and MUST of had the chance to use the Beta's and GM. So they should be fully testing with the New OS. (Actually they should be doing this on every Point release Apple releases). So that gives them two options, put up a notice that CO7.X.X does not work with OS or Point release, or on the day the OS is released, release an upgrade.

    Sorry if I sound a little peeved, but I have put up with the REALLY BUGGY versions of 7.X, changed cameras and the new camera is not supported and all they respond with is you have to talk to your camera manufacture to give us support. (Sorry not my job.) I cannot even get it to work when converted to DNG. While Adobe, and Apple's products have no issues.


    We of course have been using the Dev previews of Mavericks. However, Apple is known to make last-minute changes in the Master, so nothing is certain before the public release.

    As for 7.1.4, this has of course not been tested on the Public version of Mavericks, because 7.1.4 was released before Mavericks. We also test on each OSX double dot release. Right now we are testing on the released 10.9 for an upcoming version of CO.
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