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Windows 10 UI very small

James McCarthy
Has anyone experienced a very tiny UI on Windows 10 with hi-res screens? Specifically on a Surface Pro 4.
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  • Christian Gruner
    If you increase the DPI setting for the screen, you should be good to go.
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  • Samoreen
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    If you increase the DPI setting for the screen, you should be good to go.


    This is not a solution since it will affect all applications. The problem is that C1 UI uses too small fonts for some configurations and this should be adjustable.
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  • SFA
    [quote="Samoreen" wrote:
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    If you increase the DPI setting for the screen, you should be good to go.


    This is not a solution since it will affect all applications. The problem is that C1 UI uses too small fonts for some configurations and this should be adjustable.


    Either that or some high resolution screens are too small physically (for human eyesight) to be properly usable at their full resolution at a realistic focus and viewing distance.

    👿

    😉


    Grant
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  • WPNL
    That depends on how the resolution / scaling is used.
    Keeping UI based on pixels and 1 on 1 is not the best option.
    Simply, giving the choice of font size or UI scaling factor should be possible. There are 'other' applications that support this, either on the development side or offer it on the client side.
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  • SFA
    [quote="WPNL" wrote:
    That depends on how the resolution / scaling is used.
    Keeping UI based on pixels and 1 on 1 is not the best option.
    Simply, giving the choice of font size or UI scaling factor should be possible. There are 'other' applications that support this, either on the development side or offer it on the client side.


    To read a screen comfortably one needs the character set to stay at least a certain size if no the "ideal" size for one's sight at a given distance.

    For the text to be a certain size the containing "windows" for the display of the text also need to be a certain size.

    That size, at a given comfortable viewing distance assuming a reasonable good screen, is the pretty much the same no matter the dimensions of the screen and its potential resolution. The the text and the box it appears in needs to be a certain size irrespective of the screen resolution.

    If I put the same tools and workspace size requirements onto a smaller physical screen, thinking about C1 for example, I would leave less space for the viewer. I could still display images at the same resolution, probably, but whether the extra detail is still visually available at the regular working distance, eye to screen, is debatable. So what to I really gain?

    4k at 12 or 13 inches is really less usable than 1920x1080 on a 15" display IMO.

    4k at 30" (or close to that) may be a different game. My text based boxes could stay the same size as viewing distance would probable work out at much the same as for a 15" screen (as I most commonly use on a laptop) leaving more of the screen area for image display or expanded tools.

    It is in part for these reasons that smartphone screens are so compromised for complex or "advanced" interactive applications.

    Just my opinion of course. Others may see things differently. 🤓

    Grant
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  • Jim Hughes
    This is a problem with many older apps - they haven't kept up with the increase in screen resolution. It's becoming a real pain and I think it's a somewhat difficult and expensive problem for software vendors to correct, as it goes deep into the oldest code. We just need to keep the pressure on. 😊
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  • Adam Richardson
    I have a Surface book (3000x2000px in 13" diagonal) and the C1 controls are pretty small, though usable (for me), with scaling set to the default 200%.

    Now I have a bit of the opposite problem. For my desktop I bought a 34" ultrawide monitor, which has 1440px on the vertical. So it's not nearly as high PPI as the Surface Book, and now the C1 controls look enormous! A lot of the vertical height is taken up with tool bars etc, much more than need to be the case, and reducing the window size for the image itself. Partly this is a Windows problem - it's not as good at scaling the UI as Macs are. But it would be great to see C1 more gracefully handle the wide variety of screen sizes and pixel densities that exist now. (FWIW, Lightroom and PS are both somewhat better at this)
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  • Sandy Lunitz
    Using mostly a SP4 for my C1 edits, no problems here. I have set global scaling to 150% which is the best compromise for me.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I have this problem also. UI Fonts in C1 are too small to read comfortably. TINY really. My monitor is an NEC MultiSync 27" with Windows 10.

    I get by. But I've searched several times in C1 for a way to change the font size in the settings of C1 and there are none. I don't want to change the size of fonts in windows 10, because my only complaint is C1, no other program.

    It seems like a design shortcoming. I just put up with it wishing my eyes were better lol.
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  • Jim Hughes
    As I posted earlier, this problem is found in many applications today. But that doesn't let Phase One off the hook.

    They really need to fix this. If not, they'll hit the wall the next time display technology takes a step up and new display screens have significantly higher resolution. I strain to read this UI today; if it got any worse I'd have to give up on C1.
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  • Christian Gruner
    [quote="NN635790973675498599UL" wrote:
    As I posted earlier, this problem is found in many applications today. But that doesn't let Phase One off the hook.

    They really need to fix this. If not, they'll hit the wall the next time display technology takes a step up and new display screens have significantly higher resolution. I strain to read this UI today; if it got any worse I'd have to give up on C1.


    Please file a feature request with our Support Team. Please be sure to back it up with screenshots/video, so it will not be dismissed as already implemented, as CO already does support the OS settable DPI scaling.
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  • James McCarthy
    Wow! Thanks for the replies and input. I did find a solution and shared it online in my blog. What came down to was pretty simple. I just toggled the override high DPI scaling in the program file properties of the CaptureOne EXE file.

    Here is the longer-winded that version I wrote (with screenshots).
    https://jmccarthygalleries.com/blog/focus-point/capture-one-pro-menu-font-too-small/
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  • James McCarthy
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    [quote="NN635790973675498599UL" wrote:
    Please file a feature request with our Support Team. Please be sure to back it up with screenshots/video, so it will not be dismissed as already implemented, as CO already does support the OS settable DPI scaling.


    Where do I do this? URL please.
    Thanks
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  • SFA
    Quickest way is to go to the Help menu in C1, Capture One Help and then scroll down to the Contact Support Link.

    HTH.

    Grant
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