Exporting RAW files
Got an issue I can't wrap my head around.
Working on a job, client wants me to deliver RAW files with adjustments, however, they use Lightroom and not Capture One.
Can anyone think of a way to transfer the RAW files, with the Capture One adjustments over to their lightroom workflow?
Embedded or XMP or something... I can't fathom it. Someone must have run into this before.
Cheers!
Craig
Working on a job, client wants me to deliver RAW files with adjustments, however, they use Lightroom and not Capture One.
Can anyone think of a way to transfer the RAW files, with the Capture One adjustments over to their lightroom workflow?
Embedded or XMP or something... I can't fathom it. Someone must have run into this before.
Cheers!
Craig
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No, NEVER give RAW files to the client. And why do they want to have your adjustments when they have LR. You are just about to hand over your workflow (how you shoot, editing etc.) and afterwards you're no longer needed. 0 -
It won't be possible to send Capture One-adjusted raw files for them to view in LR (with adjustments). The different rendering engines are not compatible- instructions in Capture One don't translate to LR equivalents.
They'd have to use Capture One, and they can access the files with adjustments for free for 30 days via the trial (if they haven't installed that version and run the trial previously, of course). You can export raw files with adjustments via File > Export Images > Originals and check off Include Adjustments. Better yet, send them EIP (check Pack as EIP) as it packs the adjustment .cos and raw files into one single file.0 -
[quote="NN635299624516976000UL" wrote:
No, NEVER give RAW files to the client. And why do they want to have your adjustments when they have LR. You are just about to hand over your workflow (how you shoot, editing etc.) and afterwards you're no longer needed.
I completely agree....0 -
[quote="ben_US" wrote:
It won't be possible to send Capture One-adjusted raw files for them to view in LR (with adjustments). The different rendering engines are not compatible- instructions in Capture One don't translate to LR equivalents.
They'd have to use Capture One, and they can access the files with adjustments for free for 30 days via the trial (if they haven't installed that version and run the trial previously, of course). You can export raw files with adjustments via File > Export Images > Originals and check off Include Adjustments. Better yet, send them EIP (check Pack as EIP) as it packs the adjustment .cos and raw files into one single file.
Cheers Ben.0 -
[quote="NN635299624516976000UL" wrote:
No, NEVER give RAW files to the client. And why do they want to have your adjustments when they have LR. You are just about to hand over your workflow (how you shoot, editing etc.) and afterwards you're no longer needed.
While I understand your sentiment, I can think of plenty of jobs where its of no consequence that the client has copies of the raw files, with or without adjustments.0 -
If you give away your RAW files, how can you claim copyright on your pictures? If your clients need uncompressed files, send them TIFF exports, but never send your RAWs. 0 -
[quote="John Doe" wrote:
If you give away your RAW files, how can you claim copyright on your pictures? If your clients need uncompressed files, send them TIFF exports, but never send your RAWs.
Many people shoot jpegs as the primary image format. Wouldn't this argument then suggest that we shouldn't send out copies of such jpegs in order to preserve a claim on copyright? I'm not sure that physical possession of a RAW file is needed for copyright. Wouldn't you put the copyright information in the EXIF/ITPC information in the RAW file before sharing it? That said, I wouldn't share my RAW files either except with close friends or photograph colleagues.0 -
Good questions. I'm no law expert and it probably depends on the country. I'm not convinced an EXIF field, which is easy to modify, would be enough proof in court. 0 -
[quote="John Doe" wrote:
Good questions. I'm no law expert and it probably depends on the country. I'm not convinced an EXIF field, which is easy to modify, would be enough proof in court.
This is getting a long way from C1, but here goes: surely, the existence of an original raw file on the author's computer, with appropriate metadata from the OS would be proof that the author's file pre-dated anything the client held - and hence would be proof of authorship?
That said, I agree with the view that a client doesn't need a raw file. Full res JPEG or maybe TIFF is as much as they need - unless they plan to take creative control from the photographer.
Just my opinion, of course ...
Oh, and one other thing. If the photographer has any concerns about appropriation of their work in terms of authorship or creatively, I'd suggest they hold the card on which the images were shot until things are resolved.0 -
My Two Cents Worth:
Your client hired you to make some images - with adjustments. They should respect your work enough to ask YOU to further edit the images to their taste and purpose, and pay for the edits. Unless you specifically sold the rights to those images, you still own the copyright. Your original contract should stipulate where they can use your images, and for how long. Do not sell yourself short. After all, they wanted to use your images. If they are not willing to pay, then you do not have a business transaction and the client is acting unethically. 2Cents.0 -
[quote="John Doe" wrote:
Good questions. I'm no law expert and it probably depends on the country. I'm not convinced an EXIF field, which is easy to modify, would be enough proof in court.
As far as I'm aware, if a work is not valuable enough to register with a copyright office, it's not worth taking to court.0
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