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Suggestion - mask from color editor selection

John Allan
The color editor is so good at "selecting" a particular area based on color - it would be great to be able to turn that into a mask.

And while we're on the subject of masks - why are your masks exactly reversed from what masks are historically and presently in other applications. Even going back to manual masking before software, masks prohibit an effect from being applied to an area (hence the term mask). Masks don't select the area to which an effect is narrowly applied.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN635035641558973853UL" wrote:
    The color editor is so good at "selecting" a particular area based on color - it would be great to be able to turn that into a mask.

    And while we're on the subject of masks - why are your masks exactly reversed from what masks are historically and presently in other applications. Even going back to manual masking before software, masks prohibit an effect from being applied to an area (hence the term mask). Masks don't select the area to which an effect is narrowly applied.


    You can use the the Advanced colour editor in an adjustment layer - so what you seek would, at first pass understanding, seem to be possible already.

    I'm not sure there is much benefit in discussing the implied use of a word. However the layer activity is the key part of the function. The 'mask' can, in most cases, be used to add or subtract from the area selected - i.e. alter it in some way which is pretty much what masks have always done. You can make it work either way (according to the definition) by inverting the selected area or making the adjustment add or subtract (in most cases). So I am not sure how one could re-describe such an activity.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Permanently deleted user
    As mentioned by Grant, from the functionality POV there's no difference whether the "cut outs" of a mask are drawn or the hiding parts. If there's a personal preference for one over the other, all what's needed is to invert the selection. Then the correction to be applied to the mask (or its inversion) can be either an increment in relation to the original content or a reduction (with the exception of sharpening).
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  • Jeff Griffin
    You can use the the Advanced colour editor in an adjustment layer

    But the question, I think, relates to using the Color Editor to create a mask and then using that mask to alter other parameters such as Contrast, Exposure, Clarity , Shadows, Sharpening etc.

    This cannot be done from within the Advanced Color Editor.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN106228UL2" wrote:
    You can use the the Advanced colour editor in an adjustment layer

    But the question, I think, relates to using the Color Editor to create a mask and then using that mask to alter other parameters such as Contrast, Exposure, Clarity , Shadows, Sharpening etc.

    This cannot be done from within the Advanced Color Editor.


    Yes I understand the original question but how that relates to successfully working with a colour (range) selection changing the parameters you mention rather than the equivalent sort of adjustments offered in the colour editor is unclear.

    If you are selecting only a colour (range) the colour adjustment tools are likely to be the best adjustments to be applied to the selection.

    I do have another application that allows any tool (more or less) to be deployed based on a colour range and exposure level selection criteria. It is an interesting application but unless you wish to do something quite wild I would say the objectives are mostly more easily achieved in a suitably balanced and good looking way using Capture One. Or, to seeing it from anoher angle, just because the tool allows something does not mean it makes a useful contribution when used.

    If you see what I mean.

    In any case the way that tools works is still based on the colour selection not any mask (or the application's equivalent) derived from it.

    Just my opinion of course.


    Grant
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  • John Allan
    Well, it sounds like they implemented my masking suggestion in the new Capture One Pro 9. Cheers to Phase One!
    Still waiting for masks to be masks though.
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