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Resize smaller than fit in viewer

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  • John Doe
    Can't you reduce the size of your Viewer window?
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  • Allan Rube
    Thanks. That worked. It is different than what I am used to in other programs.
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  • Benjamin Liddle
    You could use Output Proofing to view it smaller than Fit.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Or...

    Use the Proof Margin function. It was made for that purpose. 😄
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  • Abdulla Chingachgook

    I see three years passed and noone actually addressed this.

    > Can't you reduce the size of your Viewer window?

    Well, I can, but this is inconvenient.

    > You could use Output Proofing to view it smaller than Fit.

    I could have. But that would be inconvenient.

    > Use the Proof Margin function. It was made for that purpose.

    Well, may be it was, which is highly doubtful. But guess what? If it was - it was made with inconvenience in mind!

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  • SFA

    Using the proofing recipe allows you to control how a reduced size image is presented rather than having C1 apply some generic compression to reduce the size smaller than the default preview size possibly also modified by cropping, etc.

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  • Abdulla Chingachgook

    > Using the proofing recipe allows you to control how a reduced size image is presented rather than having C1 apply some generic compression to reduce the size smaller than the default preview size possibly also modified by cropping, etc.

    You don't get it.

    I don't want to proof a picture.

    If I would want to - I would proof it with needed recipe.

    I want to make it smaller with a flick of a mouse wheel. And with a flick make it "fit".

    You see "How do I make picture smaller than Fit" is not a question about "how to" anymore.

    It's quite understandable "how to".

    It's more like a phylosophical question of "why".

    Like "why such simple a function is not present in this otherwise comprehensive software suite?"

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  • SFA

    My answer covered more about the "Why" than the "how to".

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  • Abdulla Chingachgook

    > My answer covered more about the "Why" than the "how to".

    Yes, sorry.

    It's just that you are backing one of wrong "howtos" with your answer.

    Ideologically wrong I mean.

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  • Mark Muse

    You know, it is really pretty outrageous that after all this time I can't get a view smaller than "fit". You folks trying to win people like me over from Lr, need to rethink this. I am constantly flicking back and forth between a small size, a medium size, and one to one as I work. And I like to work with a white surround, isolating the image from everything else. Any of the current workarounds require breaking my train of thought to accomplish what I am accustomed to doing with keyboard commands (Command - or command +) without even thinking about it. I'm revisiting with a 30 day trial. If this is how it's gonna go, I'm most likely gone. 

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  • SFA

    Mark,

    Here you are mainly addressing other users, not C1 staff.

    That's "Us folks".

    Also, this is the V10 Archived thread. Probably not many visitors.

    If you really want a white background for the viewer you can change to that.

    I much prefer to avoid the eye strain and the effects on colour interpretation and stick with a darker surround.

    "Fit" is a relative measure, if it is any sort of measure.

    You could make Fit smaller by choosing a smaller preview file size as a default. Not something I would recommend to anyone, but you could.

    I'm not sure that a totally crushed image has any real value, unless it is "proofing" the size at which you intend to produce the final output. 

    I have no idea of your purpose for changing the size as frequently as you are suggesting you do but no doubt you have your reasons. That's fine. Probably something that you have adopted mainly because you can do it using your current software. That's fine. I would suggest you may have a tricky transition on that basis.

    Even relearning a different set of Keyboard shortcuts might prove to be annoying. 

    You know what you know and you seem to like how your current application(s) work.

    So what is prompting you to consider changing?

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  • Mark Muse

    Hi SFA, Thanks for the reply.

    Yes, I realized after I posted that is was a very old thread. I am using a 27 inch 5K and a 32 inch 4K displays. I find it much easier and more useful to view some changes in a more global view, ie., the full image at perhaps 10 inches wide, when I am making global color or tonal edits. It is much easier to avoid getting lost in the details, until one is ready to deal with the details. One also gets a much better sense of how the edits are either supporting or detracting from the compositional gestalt of the image. 

    Regarding the white border, there are several things going on. First, the C1 interface is rather noisy, cluttered, and visually distracting. Having a white border helps to insulate the image and focus my brain. Second, white balance and accurate perception of image color content is far superior with a white border, provided the system is properly calibrated with an appropriate luminance and white point hue. Third, when my images are framed they are matted with a white matte, so it helps with previsualization. And last, if a white surround (well, ok, 95-98% luminance) is too bright, then your display is too bright for your environment and should be dimmed.

    I did after send my comment to the development team. 

    Mark

     

     

     

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  • Abdulla Chingachgook

    Hey, SFA, here we go again! (-8

    You still don't get it.

    Yes, there are "ways" to make picture smaller. But.

    It's inconvenient. It is. It always was.

    And "making picture smaller" function whatever it's called - it's a standard function in EVERY image editing software. RAW converters, graphic editors, viewers (not an editor, but anyway (-8). Every last one of them.

    But not in C1.

    And i think (i think) it's called "standard" not just by coincedence.

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  • JFX

    This issue is freaking me out as well. When I am going through hundreds of images, I am CONSTANTLY zooming out to have an overlook over the image. Mouse wheel in, mouse wheel out, mouse wheel in .... constantly. 

    The "fit" size is way too large with my 32'' monitor. And when scanning my images I am not willing to permanently resize the window. As a workaround I am now resizing the gallery view to make the image smaller. How inconvenient ...

    Whats so hard to offer an option, to allow to resize smaller than "fit" with the mouse wheel? This is what you can do with every other image software out there. (As a software developer I'd reckon this must be trivial to implement ... though sometimes things are much more complicated as they seem.)

    This is such a trivial thing, but most likely will keep me from buying this software.

    Regards

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