Lumix S1 RAW files - aspect ratio
Hi everyone again,
When I set the aspect ratio of the Panasonic Lumix to 4:3 instead of the sensor's native 3:2, after importing them into C1 12 they show up as 3:2 files, and I have to crop them back to 4:3 manually or with a style. Is that how it should be, or should C1 recognise the 4:3 tag in the image and display it as such?
best,
geb
When I set the aspect ratio of the Panasonic Lumix to 4:3 instead of the sensor's native 3:2, after importing them into C1 12 they show up as 3:2 files, and I have to crop them back to 4:3 manually or with a style. Is that how it should be, or should C1 recognise the 4:3 tag in the image and display it as such?
best,
geb
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The raw file gives you all the data that the sensor collected. To give you a 4:3 ratio, the camera is just ignoring some pixels from the left and right sides of the sensor. The raw file doesn't ignore that. If you want to have them all cropped as 4:3, you could as you suggest, create a style, and you could automate the cropping process by specifying that style to be applied on import. (And because you have applied the crop, albeit in an automated way, you have not lost the pixels from the left and right of the sensor - you could for any particular image get them back with a different crop ratio.)
Ian0 -
Doesn’t help; but I have the same problem with Fuji GFX files with Capture One not respecting the in-camera aspect ratio - which Lightroom does respect. 0 -
But it's by design. Why throw away perfectly good raw data that the camera has in fact recorded?
When Lightroom "respects" the in-camera crop, does it leave it possible to retrieve the discarded pixels from the left and right ends of the sensor?
Edited to add:
It's a matter of design philosophy, but I think I prefer the approach that doesn't throw any data away. It would be different in the case of a full frame camera set to crop-sensor mode, where the camera only records data from part of the sensor in the first place.
Ian0 -
No data is being thrown away. I'ts just the crop that can be changed at any point later in the process. C1 should just read the aspect ratio tag, like Lightroom/ACR does, and mask accordingly. 1 -
[quote="gebseng1" wrote:
No data is being thrown away. I'ts just the crop that can be changed at any point later in the process. C1 should just read the aspect ratio tag, like Lightroom/ACR does, and mask accordingly.
"Should" is an opinion. I don't know whether the files from the camera contain information about the in-camera crop that Capture One could use. I assume that they do, if Lightroom is able to do it. If that is right, then what we are left with is a design decision on the part of the Capture One developers. What you think Capture One should do, other users may think it shouldn't do.
If you would like this to be a feature of Capture One, you could suggest it in a Support case. (But as you have posted this in the Capture One 12.x Software board, it may be worth pointing out that you would have to accept that if they did implement your suggestion, they would not be making change to Capture One 12, as there is now a later version.)
Ian-1 -
It's about consistency. If P1 chooses to consider the aspect ratio for e.g. Sony Alpha and Olympus M43 camera RAWs when importing, they should also do that for Panasonic FF cameras. The reason why I post this in the forum instead of filing a support case with P1 immediately is to find out about wether I'm making a mistake while importing.
best, geb0 -
No mistake - and it is still the same in v20. 0 -
[quote="gebseng1" wrote:
It's about consistency. If P1 chooses to consider the aspect ratio for e.g. Sony Alpha and Olympus M43 camera RAWs when importing, they should also do that for Panasonic FF cameras.
Regarding the Sony Alpha, are you referring to the APS-C mode? If so, please be aware that it is not Capture One consider the aspect ratio but Sony. Sony only records the APS-C sized raw data in the file.
I am not familiar with the Olympus M43 you mentioned.0
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