Keeping all the files in one folder
Just upgraded from version 5.x . I want to keep ALL of the files for each job, including proxy files in a single folder NOT on my C drive. Right now that is how I do it and it makes backing up each job onto external hard drives very easy. I want each job self contained in it's own folder so if a year or two I need to pull up some files for a client I have everything in one place.
How can I do this?
How can I do this?
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The way I do what you want to do at the back end of your process flow (keeping the files off the C drive somwhere) is to create a new session for each 'job' (or whatever grouping I decide to use) and allow C1 to create its useful (in my opinion) set of subfolders all of which relate to each other.
When I have finished with tat seesion (or at least finished to the point where I am prepared to move it to a location with potentially slower access and processing than I would see on the primary drive) I just copy the top level folder and shift the entire session. And then delete if the time is right to reclaim the disk space.
Should I ever feel a need to brings it back I can just reverse the copy. Or, for the occasional additional editing or processing to output, work on it where it is by starting it in situ.
I do much the same thing during editing and preparation to create backup copies, though ideally I guess a proper backup solution might be a better approach.
If you work with catalogues I suppose you would need a separate catalogue by Job (might as well stick to sessions?) or a re-think on how to get your ease of access by client/job from within the catalogue structure.
HTH.
Grant Perkins0 -
Keeping everything in one only folder I don't consider a good idea. But perhaps this isn't your intention. It's just a search for an organizing structure which allows for easy localization of job/files. Here's what I'm doing: 1) I have an "Photo" folder which contains the original RAW files and a "C1" folder which contains the converted files. 2) Each of these folders contains folders shortly named according to the used camera and its cyle (XXXX-01 where XXXX stands for the camera model and the sequenced numbering for the 10th thousand, i.e. 01 for 1-9999, 02 for 10001-19999 (which is again only 1-9999). Each of these "camera folders" then contains folders named "YYMMDD-short description" and this then contains the RAW files. Capture One, when opening each of these folders, creates on reading of the RAW files in them the respective proxy and settings folders / files. This means when such a "camera folder" is copied or moved, all related C1 files are copied / moved too. The organization of the "C1" output folder is similar. This may not be a system indicated for pro use with really many photos (several shoots a day) but for me it works now - since 2005 - and I'm still able to find photos 😊 0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
The way I do what you want to do at the back end of your process flow (keeping the files off the C drive somwhere) is to create a new session for each 'job' (or whatever grouping I decide to use) and allow C1 to create its useful (in my opinion) set of subfolders all of which relate to each other.
When I have finished with tat seesion (or at least finished to the point where I am prepared to move it to a location with potentially slower access and processing than I would see on the primary drive) I just copy the top level folder and shift the entire session. And then delete if the time is right to reclaim the disk space.
Should I ever feel a need to brings it back I can just reverse the copy. Or, for the occasional additional editing or processing to output, work on it where it is by starting it in situ.
I do much the same thing during editing and preparation to create backup copies, though ideally I guess a proper backup solution might be a better approach.
If you work with catalogues I suppose you would need a separate catalogue by Job (might as well stick to sessions?) or a re-think on how to get your ease of access by client/job from within the catalogue structure.
HTH.
Grant Perkins
Thanks for the answer Grant. how do you " shift the entire session" ? I am so used to just having for each job in one folder that I have never taken the time to learn C1's way of organizing file/collections. At any one time I will have 5000-20000 files online for my clients and backing up each job by folder is real easy and reliable. It look like I have some reading to do.0 -
[quote="Thomas2921" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:
The way I do what you want to do at the back end of your process flow (keeping the files off the C drive somwhere) is to create a new session for each 'job' (or whatever grouping I decide to use) and allow C1 to create its useful (in my opinion) set of subfolders all of which relate to each other.
When I have finished with tat seesion (or at least finished to the point where I am prepared to move it to a location with potentially slower access and processing than I would see on the primary drive) I just copy the top level folder and shift the entire session. And then delete if the time is right to reclaim the disk space.
Should I ever feel a need to brings it back I can just reverse the copy. Or, for the occasional additional editing or processing to output, work on it where it is by starting it in situ.
I do much the same thing during editing and preparation to create backup copies, though ideally I guess a proper backup solution might be a better approach.
If you work with catalogues I suppose you would need a separate catalogue by Job (might as well stick to sessions?) or a re-think on how to get your ease of access by client/job from within the catalogue structure.
HTH.
Grant Perkins
Thanks for the answer Grant. how do you " shift the entire session" ? I am so used to just having for each job in one folder that I have never taken the time to learn C1's way of organizing file/collections. At any one time I will have 5000-20000 files online for my clients and backing up each job by folder is real easy and reliable. It look like I have some reading to do.
Hi Thomas,
Usually I create a new folder somewhere in windows (it does not really matter where but somewhere easy to access with a short path usually makes sense so the Window "Pictures" folder or maybe Desktop. I then create a new session in that folder.
As I often shoot events perhaps over 3 or 3 days I tend to Import by Day and camera into the session simply to make tracing the files from each memory cards a little easier at the end of the day and to know which cards have been backed up - it's not always easy for me to do that in an uninterrupted flow. (I also make a second copy of the cards to another drive - "just in case" - so the time all that takes can easily use an evening.)
Later I will go through all the regular sort of selection, culling, editing and processing activities.
Once I have finished with that event (or when activity on it is low) and I wish to archive away form my regular primary disk storage all I need to do is copy the original top level folder I created in windows to another drive, probably an external drive, and all the subfolders will go with it keeping the entire session intact. There are many posibilities or adapting this approach to specific needs provding everything is contained within a simple top level folder as a starting point. C1 can do all of that for you.
However the archive approach would not work for a session where the original image files used in the session were not also contained within the top level folder structure. So getting into the habit of taking a few seconds to set up each session correctly for your needs (including file naming during import in my normal usage) makes life a lot easier later.
This description is probably more complex than it should be. The only real difference between your original description of what you want to do and my description of how you can to it is that you want the files in a single folder and I work with a multiple folder structure within a single "master" folder. But really the result is the same.
Grant Perkins0 -
Are session still available in Capture One 7 express? I have found the online video tutorials here but they are about version 6. 0 -
[quote="Thomas2921" wrote:
Are session still available in Capture One 7 express? I have found the online video tutorials here but they are about version 6.
CO Express 7 supports a single catalog only, not sessions. Sessions like older Capture One Library sessions can be imported into the catalog. I have not tried to import other sessions (from CO Pro).0 -
[quote="Thomas2921" wrote:
Are session still available in Capture One 7 express? I have found the online video tutorials here but they are about version 6.
Thomas, are you using C1 Express?
I did wonder at an earlier point but decided that you were likely to be using Pro since Express was not mentioned. So I replied accordingly.
I don't know the Express version so cannot offer any thoughts - I'll leave that to Paul and others.
For V7 Express I very much doubt my suggestions have any usefulness.
Grant Perkins0 -
I am using Capture One Express version 7.1 . I just want to keep all the files related to individual jobs in one location for easy back up and retrival. This was very easy in the version 5.x I am coming from. I just want to do the same thing in this version, I really don't care about a catalog for searching my images, I don't even need that capability. If fact I would be happy to continue using my old version if it would work with the files from my new cameras. I have way too much work to be fiddling around with this.
As simply as possible in Capture One 7.x express how can I keep all of my files for individual jobs in one folder? Is there a tutorial showing me how to do this? I see there is a backup catalog function in the file menu, but it does not back up the images too? Where can I go to learn how to do this once simple thing? Help please.
Right now I can create a catalog, place all of the raw in the same folder as the catalog, and then copy the catalog to external back up drives for long term storage. If I copy the folder containing the catalog back to my work system I have to copy in back to the drive from which it originated. So, if the original catalog was made one drive E and I want to move it to drive G I get a question mark on the images because it is now considered the be offline. Is there a setting that I can change that would make the drive that the images came from irrelevant because the files are inside the catalogs source folder,so instead of E:/UCR/myrawfiles/ it would not see the drive letter (UCR/myrawfiles/ ) because the path to the raw files is contained inside the catalog directory as a sub folder.0 -
Thomas,
You might want to go through the following threads as they cover similar topics:
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14251
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14294
In particular the import options might help you.0
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