Color matching
I have an assignment coming up where I will be shooting with another photographer. He will be using a Nikon D800 and I will be using a Canon 5D Mark III. In the end I will be processing both sets of files in C1 9.
These will be head shots so I would like the faces and backgrounds to match.Since there will be 150 of them I would love a streamlined workflow.
Any suggestions or ideas would be very helpful.
Thanks,
Lanny Nagler
These will be head shots so I would like the faces and backgrounds to match.Since there will be 150 of them I would love a streamlined workflow.
Any suggestions or ideas would be very helpful.
Thanks,
Lanny Nagler
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Personally, I would rent another camera if its that important.
I assume that strobes will be used. Are they the same?
At the very least, I would use the same white balance card.
Of course there are those on here that have way more experience than me, but theres my two cents 😄
Good luck with the shoot.0 -
It is too bad that the DNG Color Passport profiles won't work in C0 9 "Pro"...
I know wedding Photogs use Passport to make the different camera models match...in Adobe Raw workflow.
If the profiles that Passport made would work in C0 9 then the rest of the workflow would be at your fingertips.
The only way that you can make both Nikon and Cannon match in CO 9 is to take considerable time in Capture One to try to make a preference. Too much work for me.0 -
[quote="Grant Kernan" wrote:
It is too bad that the DNG Color Passport profiles won't work in C0 9 "Pro"...
I know wedding Photogs use Passport to make the different camera models match...in Adobe Raw workflow.
If the profiles that Passport made would work in C0 9 then the rest of the workflow would be at your fingertips.
The only way that you can make both Nikon and Cannon match in CO 9 is to take considerable time in Capture One to try to make a preference. Too much work for me.
This.
Why the hell is it not a feature in C1?0 -
Matching to different cameras is about much more than just matching a few rough color patches. Even from shot to shot from the same camera you will need to adjust for different lighting conditions (that will affect white-balance and contrast-levels). The Color Passport will only correct base color, which will not affect white-balance or contrast (unless you make a profile for each and every picture, which requires you to have the color checker in each and every picture).
Also, the Color Checker software creates DNG files a profile, not standard ICC-profiles. This further complicates any attempt to integrate support into CO.
As others have suggested, I would also suggest that the same make and model of camera is used. Also, exactly the same setup of lighting should be used, both in regards to placing, modifiers and so on.
If all these parameters are equal, you will have much less of a hassle to create equal results. Create as much as possible in the recording, and you will have much less to do in post.
Basically, there is no free lunch here, if you want them to match.
150 images are not that many, and should take no more 2-3 hours.0 -
I am still waiting for accurate colour from C1 for my D800 !
When I do fine art repro I have to profile outside of C1 to get accurate colour rendition. I use a current Digital SG Color Checker and an ICC Profile maker for In Camera Profiles.This process makes my artists happy.
The C1 profiles clip the highlights above 243 RGB values and skew the colour most everywhere. Contrast is ramped up too!
Sorry I am off topic. The In Camera profiles only work for flat artwork. It could work for portraits but the lighting would need to be completely uniform and not glamorous or posterization would be an issue...0 -
[quote="Grant Kernan" wrote:
I am still waiting for accurate colour from C1 for my D800 !
When I do fine art repro I have to profile outside of C1 to get accurate colour rendition. I use a current Digital SG Color Checker and an ICC Profile maker for In Camera Profiles.This process makes my artists happy.
The C1 profiles clip the highlights above 243 RGB values and skew the colour most everywhere. Contrast is ramped up too!
Sorry I am off topic. The In Camera profiles only work for flat artwork. It could work for portraits but the lighting would need to be completely uniform and not glamorous or posterization would be an issue...
Please keep on topic. You are welcome to file a support-case with your concerns.0 -
The profiling method I mentioned will force different cameras or models to behave in a way that they all are very close to being an exact match...in flat art...uniform light.
I offered that I was off topic but it is not that far off topic.
3 dimensional lighting is more difficult to profile and I understand that every sensor and camera software will flavour or season to the camera manufacturers design.
It would seem though that if profiles are well made that the different models and makes would match or at least be close.
As another suggested. Identical cameras, lighting and camera settings would be optimal.0 -
[quote="Grant Kernan" wrote:
or posterization would be an issue...
you can do a simple matrix + trc (compensating transfer function) profile = no possible posterization because of 3D luts (the way what you use create the LUT) then...0 -
Have you tried this method?
http://www.colourspace.xyz/creating-cam ... pture-one/
I have just tried it but can't verify the reliability of the profile yet.0
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