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newbie fundies: import question

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After importing jpg files from disk via menu, the path name is too long. It shows the path to the expression catalogue, then
the disk path. I only want the disk path. Also the entire path name is abbreviated at some point, very difficult to use as a file finder. Also entire path name is unavailable everywhere except in the path bar above thumbnail view, where it is abbreviated from original disk name.

The next import try, maybe it was drag and drop, the correct path only to disk name worked.
But when I removed the disk, I got a "?" icon in the catalogue window. Do what with that?
Also I'm not seeing this import anywhere in the expression folder. I'm thinking the import will be lost as soon as I close out.
OK did not lose, but it got absorbed in a previous catalogue so disk name file path is not correct.

Basically all I want is thumbnails and paths to DVD disks I archive.

And while we're at it, what's the difference between a catalogue set, and a catalogue.
Does the set hold all the catalogues? cuz if so, why is there no menu>file>new catalogue SET?

I hope there are phase one techs on this forum
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  • rmoorlag
    After importing jpg files from disk via menu, the path name is too long. It shows the path to the expression catalogue, then
    the disk path. I only want the disk path. Also the entire path name is abbreviated at some point, very difficult to use as a file finder. Also entire path name is unavailable everywhere except in the path bar above thumbnail view, where it is abbreviated from original disk name.

    Well, the path name shows the real path to the picture. In my opinion the only way to get a shorter path name is to make less folder and subfolders or tho use shorter file and folder names.


    The next import try, maybe it was drag and drop, the correct path only to disk name worked.
    But when I removed the disk, I got a "?" icon in the catalogue window. Do what with that?
    Also I'm not seeing this import anywhere in the expression folder. I'm thinking the import will be lost as soon as I close out.

    The ? icon is a sign that the original file is not available at the moment. When the CD of DVD with the media is in your player it should disappear.


    And while we're at it, what's the difference between a catalogue set, and a catalogue.
    Does the set hold all the catalogues? cuz if so, why is there no menu>file>new catalogue SET?

    I hope there are phase one techs on this forum

    A catalogue is one complete Expression Media 'database'. You can recognize it on the .ivc file extension.
    In a Catalogue resides files, Labels, Rating, Keywords and the Catalog sets that you can make.

    You can see a Catalog set as an virtual folder. They are ideal to organize your images in.
    Unlike 'real' folders, you can put images in different Catalog sets at the same time without making copies.

    There are some good tutorials available here: .

    The Expression® Media 2 Overview guide is to find here:

    Roelof
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  • NNN634256955469043515
    Great thanks, I looked at all that.

    Who knows:

    If we make a change that requires Action>rebuild items, and the originals are off site dvd, how can there be a rebuild?

    These Media Expression files are really just capsule renderings, right? So how can we legitimately evaluate 100% original file?

    Can we promote keyword sets to catalogue subsets?

    Are all the catalogue sets we make always in that catalogue fields menu until we delete them? or are they a function
    of whatever catalogue is opened?

    media preview: if this is unchecked on import, and files are off site on dvd, what quality of media preview are we going to see?

    can we just drag a catalogue folder into a catalogue set?

    from below:
    Well, the path name shows the real path to the picture. In my opinion the only way to get a shorter path name is to make less folder and subfolders or tho use shorter file and folder names.

    well, fully 1/2 the path name becomes "Macintosh HD:users:myname:documents:expressionmedia2:" I really just want the dvd folder structure that these assets come from.

    The ? icon is a sign that the original file is not available at the moment. When the CD of DVD with the media is in your player it should disappear.

    What are the consequences of ? icon? Both my catalogues were from disk, but only one of them has a ? icon. One was import from disk, one was drag and drop.


    You can see a Catalog set as an virtual folder.

    yes i think i got it, so any catalogue sets we make are going to be part of the catalogue I am working on?

    Thanks for any answers !
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  • rmoorlag
    Hello ?
    Who knows:
    If we make a change that requires Action>rebuild items, and the originals are off site dvd, how can there be a rebuild?
    These Media Expression files are really just capsule renderings, right? So how can we legitimately evaluate 100% original file?

    There can only be a rebuild with the original file present. The data from the original is used to build the rebuild.
    I don't know what You mean with 'capsule renderings' but what's in a EM catalogue is only a representation or the real files. When your original files get lost your catalog can still exist.

    Can we promote keyword sets to catalogue subsets?

    I don't know an automated way to do this but yes, manually it can but i see no reason for make an catalog set for every keyword. I see sense of making collections of combinations (all photo's of a certain person in a certain situation i.e.), You can make them with a search command. Alle the images in the searchresult can be added to a catalog set.

    Are all the catalogue sets we make always in that catalogue fields menu until we delete them? or are they a function of whatever catalogue is opened?

    A Catalog set remains in the EM catalog you make it in. You can asign a catalog set to images and re-asign it again. When no asignments are present you can delete a catalog set. When you trieing to delete a catalog set that is asignd to images it wil first be re-asigned to those images.

    It is posible to 'migrate' cataloge sets (and subsets) from one EM catalog to another. Make a copy of catalog 1 (catalog 2)and remove all images out of it. Then open catalog 3 and import catalog 2 (Import items/from catalog file) and both are merged now.

    media preview: if this is unchecked on import, and files are off site on dvd, what quality of media preview are we going to see?

    It depends on what you have chosen for 'thumbnail size' and 'quality' in the same dialog screen.

    can we just drag a catalogue folder into a catalogue set?

    No but when you select a folder, you can simply select all images with Ctrl+A en drag them into a catalog set

    well, fully 1/2 the path name becomes "Macintosh HD:users:myname:documents:expressionmedia2:" I really just want the dvd folder structure that these assets come from.

    This is realy the path, i don't know a way to shorten it..

    What are the consequences of ? icon? Both my catalogues were from disk, but only one of them has a ? icon. One was import from disk, one was drag and drop.

    The ? icon is shown with material that is not present (DVD/CD/unatached HD) at the moment.
    When the ? icon is not shown, the refered images can be approached by EM. You can simple see this to open an image. When is shows the path name in black the image is online, when shown in red, the image is off-line

    Roelof
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  • NNN634256955469043515
    [quote="rmoorlag" wrote:
    There can only be a rebuild with the original file present. The data from the original is used to build the rebuild.
    I don't know what You mean with 'capsule renderings' but what's in a EM catalogue is only a representation or the real files. When your original files get lost your catalog can still exist.


    hmm, I wonder what EM is doing when I click rebuild without the original, cuz it's acting like a rebuild or doing something that takes time.

    [quote="rmoorlag" wrote:
    well, fully 1/2 the path name becomes "Macintosh HD:users:myname:documents:expressionmedia2:" I really just want the dvd folder structure that these assets come from.

    This is realy the path, i don't know a way to shorten it..


    OMG this is dreadful

    [quote="rmoorlag" wrote:
    The ? icon is shown with material that is not present (DVD/CD/unatached HD) at the moment.
    When the ? icon is not shown, the refered images can be approached by EM. You can simple see this to open an image. When is shows the path name in black the image is online, when shown in red, the image is off-line


    hmm, no disk was attached so both should be ? marks.

    Also we are told to drag media items to the organize panel for assignments. Does it work the other way around too? Drag keywords onto thumbs for assignments?

    Thanks a lot.
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