Working with Retina displays
Can get a bit of advice form those of you working with the new 15" Retina Macbooks?
I'm long overdue an laptop upgrade and am poised to purchase a Retina Macbook now Photoshop has been updated. The laptop is my main computer and while I use external monitors from time to time a lot of my work is done using the laptop so I'll be relying on it's screen as my main tool. I'm using Canon 5ds in the main and occasionally Phase One backs as the need arises.
I have played in the Apple Store a couple of times with the Retina screens and they look great but until the the PS update arrived I couldn't really tell much because of the pixel doubling. So having now checked out the MAcbook again with the updated version of PS with Retina support the interpolation was gone but the image was very small. I'd pulled a shot off my website and opened it in PS so it was a relatively small image to start with but in PS it was half the size of the website which is not something I'd considered about these screens but of course makes sense.
I've not seen C1 on a retina display but I'm assuming it's going to be the same as PS appears to be and for image display the screen will essentially be working in it's native resolution of 2880 rather than 1440 emulated. To me this mean (unless I'm being really daft) that when working on images at 100% they will be half the visual size that I'm used to, all be it very clearly/sharply displayed. To me this is a problem (working with Canon sized images) as I would never do my fine retouching at 50% and blowing up to 200% is going to give me a interpolated image again (I think!). Working with small images for a website etc. could also be tricky.
Have I missed something obvious or misinterpreted the way the screen works? Is this the case and how are you finding working like this? Are there set up options to deal with this (can't really see how there can be)? Does the clarity of the screen make up for the reduced size?
I think C1 will be less of an issue with this (other than for focus checking perhaps) but for PS work I'm concerned.
I'd really appreciate some feedback from Retina users and apologies if I'm being an idiot and have got the wrong end of the stick somewhere.
Thanks in advance
Adrian
I'm long overdue an laptop upgrade and am poised to purchase a Retina Macbook now Photoshop has been updated. The laptop is my main computer and while I use external monitors from time to time a lot of my work is done using the laptop so I'll be relying on it's screen as my main tool. I'm using Canon 5ds in the main and occasionally Phase One backs as the need arises.
I have played in the Apple Store a couple of times with the Retina screens and they look great but until the the PS update arrived I couldn't really tell much because of the pixel doubling. So having now checked out the MAcbook again with the updated version of PS with Retina support the interpolation was gone but the image was very small. I'd pulled a shot off my website and opened it in PS so it was a relatively small image to start with but in PS it was half the size of the website which is not something I'd considered about these screens but of course makes sense.
I've not seen C1 on a retina display but I'm assuming it's going to be the same as PS appears to be and for image display the screen will essentially be working in it's native resolution of 2880 rather than 1440 emulated. To me this mean (unless I'm being really daft) that when working on images at 100% they will be half the visual size that I'm used to, all be it very clearly/sharply displayed. To me this is a problem (working with Canon sized images) as I would never do my fine retouching at 50% and blowing up to 200% is going to give me a interpolated image again (I think!). Working with small images for a website etc. could also be tricky.
Have I missed something obvious or misinterpreted the way the screen works? Is this the case and how are you finding working like this? Are there set up options to deal with this (can't really see how there can be)? Does the clarity of the screen make up for the reduced size?
I think C1 will be less of an issue with this (other than for focus checking perhaps) but for PS work I'm concerned.
I'd really appreciate some feedback from Retina users and apologies if I'm being an idiot and have got the wrong end of the stick somewhere.
Thanks in advance
Adrian
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No worries
I went through the same things,
It will show you images the same way you have always worked, I just upgraded to the retina 15 with 16 gigs or ram.
It makes my mazed out mac pro look like a slug, its extremely fast the screen is simply amazing, every time I shoot to it I am blown away at the speed and image quality the screen provides.
I also use the retina ipad and am getting so used to these screens its hard to look at anything else.
I was planning on a macbook pro and upgrading to the higher res screen option but by the time I put in a ssd from OWC and such it was going to be much more expensive, I thing the retina 15 is a nice medium between a macbook air and a macbook pro, not too heavy so traveling with it is amazing and the battery life is about tripple what I was getting with my old macbook pro0 -
I've got the 15 retina 2.6 with 16 gigs of ram and have not pondered the questions you have raised with how the image size displays. I will look at the details now that you have mentioned them but did want to say that I use the Macbook at three resolutions depending on what I'm doing. I use 1680x1050, which is one step up, most of the time because I like to see more area most of the time and then sometimes I run the retina's display default of 1440x900, which is a bit lower resolution than I'd like but it just simply looks gorgeous. Then when I have the laptop hooked up my 27" external thunderbolt display the resolution is 2560x1440. In all cases Capture one looks marvelous. By that I mean that there are no display elements that seem fuzzy or jagged - like they did in Office before an update. I'm very happy and the retina display is a nice step up from my other macbook displays. I have not thought about what is actually happening when one zooms to 100% ... but it just seems to work.
Aside from the marvelous speed of this laptop I am very happy because it is, imho, the first time a Mac laptop has given one the option of working with critical intent at more than just the one display size. Having a realistic native resolution (1440x900) while still being able to jump into a program that thrives at higher resolutions like the 1680x1050 I often use or the available 1920x1200 is liberating. At all display resolutions the retina display is at least the equal of non-retina displays run at their native setting. It is great to have these desktop size choices with no apparent real negative. I had read that at the higher resolution that things get slower ... but I can't feel any slowdown that may be occurring - so count me as an ecstatic camper. Marvelous technology!0 -
Thanks guys.
I'm still struggling with the idea that a 100% image view will be half the size to a standard display but I'm definitely drawn to the overall quality of it. I noticed that Photoshop now has straight to 200% option in the view menu that I don't recall seeing before the retina version, which is interesting.0
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