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Sharp tiff file in C1 6 & 7, but soft in Photoshop

Brian4
Hi Group,

I've noticed that the processed tiff files look sharp and focused in C1, but when I open the same file in Photoshop, the image is markedly soft. I have sharpening turned off in C1 when processing files. Thanks.

Brian
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Brian, what is your question. Seems that what you described makes sense. Where did I misunderstand you?

    Did you switch off sharpening in the process tool?
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  • Brian4
    Hi Paul,

    I have noticed that my processed .tiff files are sharp when processed and viewed in C1 Pro, but when I open the same file in Photoshop, the image looks unsharp/soft. Can you tell me why this is? Thank you.

    Brian
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  • SFA
    Brian,

    In your original post you wrote that you have sharpening turned off when processing files.

    Does this mean you turn it off when "processing for output" or when firstly editing the files?

    "Processing", in C1 terminology, has a specific implication of "Processing for output". That function has an option to turn off sharpening when sending output to a new file (usually the new file is used for further processing by another software application where sharpening will be applied).

    Is that what you are doing? (It is how I ready it and I think Paul too reads your original post that way).

    If that's not what you are doing can you please fill in the gaps for the avoidance of misunderstanding?
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  • Yair Shahar
    [quote="Brian4" wrote:
    Hi Paul,

    I have noticed that my processed .tiff files are sharp when processed and viewed in C1 Pro, but when I open the same file in Photoshop, the image looks unsharp/soft. Can you tell me why this is? Thank you.

    Brian


    Brian if you want the tiffs to look soft in C1 you need to change the settings in the Detail tool tab to "No sharpening". Otherwise C1 applies sharpening (default or whatever) to the preview

    Also make sure you view them at the same magnification as in photoshop
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  • Brian4
    [quote="SFA"] wrote:
    Brian, Thanks.

    Brian
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  • Brian4
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    Brian,

    In your original post you wrote that you have sharpening turned off when processing files.

    Does this mean you turn it off when "processing for output" or when firstly editing the files?

    "Processing", in C1 terminology, has a specific implication of "Processing for output". That function has an option to turn off sharpening when sending output to a new file (usually the new file is used for further processing by another software application where sharpening will be applied).

    Is that what you are doing? (It is how I ready it and I think Paul too reads your original post that way).

    If that's not what you are doing can you please fill in the gaps for the avoidance of misunderstanding?


    SFA,

    I am "processing for output". I have sharpening turned "off" when processing RAW files to tif files in C1 Pro.

    My question is and has always been, "Why do my processed .tif files look soft when viewed in Photoshop, but sharp when viewed in C1 Pro?"

    Thank you.

    Brian
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  • Brian4
    [quote="yaya" wrote:
    [quote="Brian4" wrote:
    Hi Paul,

    I have noticed that my processed .tiff files are sharp when processed and viewed in C1 Pro, but when I open the same file in Photoshop, the image looks unsharp/soft. Can you tell me why this is? Thank you.

    Brian


    Brian if you want the tiffs to look soft in C1 you need to change the settings in the Detail tool tab to "No sharpening". Otherwise C1 applies sharpening (default or whatever) to the preview

    Also make sure you view them at the same magnification as in photoshop


    Yaya,

    I don't want the files to look soft. I want them to be sharp. As I have stated, the tif files were processed in C1 Pro and look sharp when viewed in C1. But when I open them up in Photoshop, they are soft. Sharpening is turned off when processing. I am also viewing the files at the same magnification in both C1 and Photoshop.

    Thank you.
    Brian
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  • Christian Gruner
    [quote="Brian4" wrote:
    Sharpening is turned off when processing


    Untick this function in your recipe, and CO applies the sharpening when you process
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  • Brian4
    [quote="Christian Gr" wrote:
    [quote="Brian4" wrote:
    Sharpening is turned off when processing


    Untick this function in your recipe, and CO applies the sharpening when you process


    Thanks Christian Gr.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding each other here. The reason why the photos look sharp in C1 is that there is some sharpening applied in the sharpening tool on the details tab. That sharpening will usually be applied also to the output file unless the check box is selected in the output recipe to say disable sharpening. But if that box is selected (which you say it is) then the sharpening you see in C1 will not be applied to the output file (perhaps because you want to sharpen it yourself in Photoshop before getting it printed, or whatever).

    You could try a couple of experiments. (1) Select an image and drag the sharpening sliders all the way down to zero. Do the image in C1 and the output image now look equally soft? (2) Process another image (that does look acceptably sharp in C1) twice - once with the disable sharpening check box selected and once with it not selected. Then compare the output TIFFs.

    Or am I misunderstanding the problem too?

    Ian
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  • Brian4
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding each other here. The reason why the photos look sharp in C1 is that there is some sharpening applied in the sharpening tool on the details tab. That sharpening will usually be applied also to the output file unless the check box is selected in the output recipe to say disable sharpening. But if that box is selected (which you say it is) then the sharpening you see in C1 will not be applied to the output file (perhaps because you want to sharpen it yourself in Photoshop before getting it printed, or whatever).

    You could try a couple of experiments. (1) Select an image and drag the sharpening sliders all the way down to zero. Do the image in C1 and the output image now look equally soft? (2) Process another image (that does look acceptably sharp in C1) twice - once with the disable sharpening check box selected and once with it not selected. Then compare the output TIFFs.

    Or am I misunderstanding the problem too?

    Ian


    Hey Ian,

    Thanks for your response. I'll try your suggestions and see what happens.

    Brian
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  • dmhelsby
    I'm using a MacBook Pro with Retina display and have just found out that the trial version of Photoshop 6 is interpolating the image as it can't handle the high resolution. I've just uploaded the latest update 13.0.2 to see if Adobe have a fix for this and yes they have!! So, all is good now. I think this may answer some of the earlier posts?
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    What’s the output -cl-6 mean

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