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Dehaze

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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="NNN634449509581939695" wrote:
    Is there a work around with V10 tools to get similar results?

    Short answer - no.

    This has come up before - a site search will avoid the need for another exchange on the subject...
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  • NNN634449509581939695
    Thanks to the last part of the question re a workaround ... The first part of my question however is the critical one ...

    "Will Dehaze be added to V10 at some point ? "
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN634449509581939695" wrote:
    Thanks to the last part of the question re a workaround ... The first part of my question however is the critical one ...

    "Will Dehaze be added to V10 at some point ? "


    You are asking people on a User to User forum.

    Phase, along with many other companies, are not in the habit of speculating or pre-announcing so you are unlikely to see an official answer.

    There are certainly ways of editing images that create a "dehaze" effect - whatever that may be for a specific image.

    It's likely to involve a selection of editing tools so something that can be saved as a style as the basis for future re-use.

    There are some examples in earlier discussion.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • John Doe
    Try Clarity/Structure.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    I'm not sure that Clarity/Structure entirely does it, at least not all the time. There is a dehaze feature in Affinity Photo, which worked fairly well on a photo of mine recently, though it tended to not quite apply the effect to some areas that had an overhanging branch partially obscuring them. So I came back to C1 (version 9) to try to achieve the same result using a local adjustment that got better into all the areas that needed it. I got fairly close with a combination of Clarity, Exposure, Contrast and Saturation, if I remember rightly, but only fairly close. I think there is a lot more to successful dehaze than one first imagines.

    Ian
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    I'm not sure that Clarity/Structure entirely does it, at least not all the time.

    Doesn't really get close, Ian - it's not the same thing at all.

    That's why I suggested that the OP conduct a search, rather than going over the same ground again - it'll gain nothing because nothing in Capture One has changed.

    And despite what the "experts" in earlier conversations - who clearly have no detailed experience of DeHaze/ClearView (in DxO-speak) - had to say about it, no combination of tools in Capture One adequately replicates these tools.

    As this guy suggests:
    Those who have written it off as “a gimmicky new name for contrast†have missed the mark and are losing out on a valuable tool for many photography uses.

    I beta-tested for DxO before ClearView was introduced, and this page sums up nicely what it does (DeHaze in Lr uses similar technology):

    http://www.dxo.com/us/photography/photo ... /clearview

    Capture One simply cannot match this.

    Incidentally, the "Haze Removal" in Affinity Photo doesn't have quite the same effect as DeHaze/ClearView either, in my experience - it doesn't seem to deliver the same micro-detail enhancement that the Lightroom and DxO tools have (and which is very clearly demonstrated in the before-and-after of the boat shot at the bottom of the DxO page).

    I know that Capture One's Clarity tool can be used as a micro-detail enhancer - I use it that way - but it's still not doing what DeHaze/ClearView do...
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  • Ian Wilson
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    On the other hand, I have Affinity, and I don't have DxO.

    Ian
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  • JoVo
    I "dehazed" a picture before in C1. I used clarity and contrast/curves adjustments but also changed the white balance (local adjustment). More haze creates more blue which has to be compensated for.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    [quote="JoVo" wrote:
    More haze creates more blue which has to be compensated for.

    Yes, I should have remembered that this was part of what I did.

    Ian
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  • Michael Iannantuoni
    I love C1 but looking at its origin and development, thier main target market seems to be professional portrait studios to whom $99 per year to upgrade is trivial.
    The enthusiastic amateur, semi-pro and landscape photographer are not their main concern, so yes, I would love a dehaze feature, but I'm not holding my breath.
    A personal observation and maybe I'm wrong.
    Michael
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I just downloaded the DxO trial. I have some misty/foggy pictures taken recently in Venice. The dehaze works very well. On my pics quite a lot of further work needed doing after dehazing but certainly worthwhile. I used to be a DxO user and can get quite a reasonable upgrade price so I might just buy it for special uses.
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  • Keith Reeder
    Brian,

    although it's not quite the same as the DxO/Lightroom implementations, I like the results that Affinity Photo's DeHaze delivers - I reckon you'd spend your money more sensibly on Photo than on Optics Pro, especially as Photo is fully compatible with the (free) Nik plugin collection, which has a pretty fine DeHaze equivalent built in too.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Great suggestion Keith. I had forgotten Affinity Photo is now available for Windows and hadn't checked it out. I will do that now. Thanks for the pointer. I am still miffed with DxO for completely blanking Fujifilm X which is my second system.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Hmm... no trial option but I think there is a money back guarantee so I'll look at it tomorrow.
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  • SFA
    [quote="rafikiphoto" wrote:
    Hmm... no trial option but I think there is a money back guarantee so I'll look at it tomorrow.


    Brian,

    Last time I looked (when I bought photo a couple of weeks ago as an upgrade to what went before for those few times a year when I really feel a need for PS like functionality) it was about the same price as an average meal out for one at a (UK) restaurant.

    Buy it and sell a filter you never use to pay for it!


    Grant
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  • Permanently deleted user
    😂 Very true!
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  • SFA
    [quote="rafikiphoto" wrote:
    :lol: Very true!


    😎
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="rafikiphoto" wrote:
    Hmm... no trial option but I think there is a money back guarantee so I'll look at it tomorrow.


    If you can give it a couple of weeks, Serif is introducing a WIndows trial option.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Thanks Keith.
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