Copy Adjustments
When I copy adjustments the white balance does not get copied. I checked the clipboard and every time I try to copy adjustments the white balance gets unchecked (as well as some other controls). Any clue why?
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Hi Maggie,
It should not be that way. Can you specify version OS X, CO and your raw files? Can you confirm the setting of the Adjustments Clipboard: is Autoselect Adjust checked? (small triangle at the right, click to open).0 -
I have the exact same problem copying white balance. I am using OS 10.6.3 and C1 v5.1.1.
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Not able to copy that behavior on 10.6.3 with CO 5.1.1 with Canon 5D mkII files. I tried all kind of copy commands (shortcut, button tool and toolbar). Is it only with white balance?
Best to log a case with Phase One.0 -
Maggie / Rob,
It would help us clarify the specific issue if either of you could create a support case. I would also like to make sure we are in fact talking about White Balance and not Camera Profile or some other specific setting. Also, please be sure you're not trying to carry over settings from a RAW to a JPEG or TIFF.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
Maggie / Rob,
It would help us clarify the specific issue if either of you could create a support case. I would also like to make sure we are in fact talking about White Balance and not Camera Profile or some other specific setting. Also, please be sure you're not trying to carry over settings from a RAW to a JPEG or TIFF.
Drew,
Now that I have checked more thoroughly, I find the same behavior with all of the individual adjustment tools. None of them can be copied and applied to another image. It is definitely RAW to RAW. I will create a support case.
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Rob,
I took a look at the case and it seems to just be confusion on how the Local Copy/Apply tool works. The supporter seems to have explained it in the case.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
Rob,
I took a look at the case and it seems to just be confusion on how the Local Copy/Apply tool works. The supporter seems to have explained it in the case.
Great. I do not have access to my email at this moment, so I will not be able to read it until this evening. It might be useful to post the correct method, so that others may learn from it as well.
Rob0 -
The Tool is mentioned on Page 38 of the Manual.
In any case, the trick with this tool is to select ALL the images that you want to apply an adjustment too. It is not designed to Select Image A, Copy, Select Image B, Paste. Rather, Edit Image A, Select Image A and B, Apply.
Notice in the example below I have both images selected, the primary image is where the adjustments are coming from and the other selected image is where the adjustments are going to. Then all I do is hit the "Apply" Button (as the orange check implies the adjustment has automatically been Copied) and the white Balance is applied to the other image.
http://i42.tinypic.com/35i8ym1.png0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
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It is not designed to Select Image A, Copy, Select Image B, Paste. Rather, Edit Image A, Select Image A and B, Apply.
Whether it is designed to work like that or not, it does work in either fashion if you know how. So let's quote from my diary and future memoires:To be precise, compared to the regular copy and apply adjustments feature, the Local Copy and Apply (LCA) feature works different only in the Copy state (limited to one tool), but not in the Apply state of copying and applying adjustments. Even more, the LCA feature uses the same program's internal clipboard for adjustments as the regular copy/paste feature for adjustments does.
As a result, you can use the LCA feature both with multiple selected (copying adjustments from the primary selected to the other selected) as well as with only one selected. In the latter case you copy with LCA only the tool's adjustments from the selected image. Next, you can select one or multiple images and execute the apply adjustments command (Sh+Cmd+V or toolbar button). Note that after the Copy phase, the adjustments clipboard shows the proper boxes checked and mentions the originating image.
Another enhanced and lightning fast feature unique for LCA is its mini-clipboard-suppressing-shortcut and copy/apply-in-one-stroke option, a.k.a. Shift+click. For this you need both the originating and the target images selected. That's the other thing it was designed for (next to the per-tool copying).0 -
Thanks, Drew and Paul. I will try this at home tonight. What is confusing to us newbies is that for global adjustments, it is a straightforward copy and paste process, whereas for individual adjustments, it is not. From a user-friendly standpoint, I think it would have been better to have the two processes consistent, although I'm sure that there were good reasons for not doing so.
Rob0 -
Now I am even more confused because after restarting C1 everything seems to work the way I think it should except that Drew explained that you can't do "Select Image A, Copy, Select Image B, Paste". That's what I have been doing.
I agree with Rob that this is confusing.0 -
[quote="Maggie12" wrote:
... Drew explained that you can't do "Select Image A, Copy, Select Image B, Paste".
This was in reference to the Local Copy and Paste. If you take a closer look at the tool it may help clarify just where the adjustments are coming From, as detailed in the tools title.
http://i44.tinypic.com/ixcpkj.jpg
So, if you have "Image A" selected and the Adjustments Clipboard says "From Image A" then you won't get very far in applying adjustments that already exist.0 -
Maybe it would be easier for me to understand if someone told me what other adjustment I can make other than local? I know global but what does that mean?
When I click on image A, right click copy adjustments, check the clipboard it shows that the adjustments are coming from image A then I click on image B, right click on it and select apply adjustments. Clipboard states that adjustments are coming from image A, so what's wrong with that?0 -
Maggie,
Please reference Page 32 of the Manual to explain the Adjustments Clipboard.
Please reference Page 38 of the Manual to explain the Local Adjustments Clipboard.0 -
The LCA is most confusing part of using this app. It's not very straight forward or my C1 v5 is corrupt. I'm trying to apply a universal metadata group of information to all the images. The main image has the proper metadata entered. Every time I try to copy, they would only have the Exposure and Color checked on. The metadata despite being the main change is never checked once copied. So, whenever I go through with copy and pasting the LCA, it changes the Exposure and Color.
Not sure what the pattern or procedures would be to use this confusing feature.0 -
[quote="david17" wrote:
The LCA is most confusing part of using this app. It's not very straight forward or my C1 v5 is corrupt. I'm trying to apply a universal metadata group of information to all the images. The main image has the proper metadata entered. Every time I try to copy, they would only have the Exposure and Color checked on. The metadata despite being the main change is never checked once copied. So, whenever I go through with copy and pasting the LCA, it changes the Exposure and Color.
Not sure what the pattern or procedures would be to use this confusing feature.
From your description it seems to me that you are using the generic copy/apply feature, not the Local Copy & Apply (LCA). Did I misread your post? And because the actual feature is changing through versions of CO5, can you specify your version (or update to 5.1.1) and OS X release you use?0 -
First I want to thank PhaseOne for sending out that cool email about metadata keyword. It is an important aspect for sure!
I'm using the latest version of C1 Pro V5.1.1 So far from following the instructions in the YouTube video, I do see the technique is very regimented. Meaning I have to prior to clicking on the apply, make sure the "metadata" box is toggled. Then select keywords to plug it in. Otherwise doing individual checks would not take. (not sure if explanation makes sense)
It's not very intuitive to implement the function. As it takes many steps to just to copy it to the LCA.0 -
[quote="david17" wrote:
...prior to clicking on the apply, make sure the "metadata" box is toggled. Then select keywords to plug it in. Otherwise doing individual checks would not take. (not sure if explanation makes sense)
It's not very intuitive to implement the function. As it takes many steps to just to copy it to the LCA.
In regard to applying adjustments, the Metadata tool behaves as stated above because it is assumed that (aside from the basics) no two IPTC fields would be the same (Keywording and the like). Adjustments that are seen to be fitting in application to all images are automatically copied to the clipboard, others need to be manually/intentionally selected.
The best way to handle Metadata that will always be applied to all your images is to copy it to the Clipboard and save it as a style.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
[quote="david17" wrote:
...prior to clicking on the apply, make sure the "metadata" box is toggled. Then select keywords to plug it in. Otherwise doing individual checks would not take. (not sure if explanation makes sense)
It's not very intuitive to implement the function. As it takes many steps to just to copy it to the LCA.
In regard to applying adjustments, the Metadata tool behaves as stated above because it is assumed that (aside from the basics) no two IPTC fields would be the same (Keywording and the like). Adjustments that are seen to be fitting in application to all images are automatically copied to the clipboard, others need to be manually/intentionally selected.
The best way to handle Metadata that will always be applied to all your images is to copy it to the Clipboard and save it as a style.
... next, apply the style to a selection of images. Oops, sorry, not possible...0 -
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
... next, apply the style to a selection of images. Oops, sorry, not possible...
Paul?
That's the idea...
Load your Style, Select All Images, Apply... seems to work just fine.0 -
[quote="Drew " wrote:
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
... next, apply the style to a selection of images. Oops, sorry, not possible...
Paul?
That's the idea...
Load your Style, Select All Images, Apply... seems to work just fine.
Yes Drew, I know, but that brings us back to square one: the issue of the OP or am I overlooking something?0 -
The OP's issue, though confusing, was resolved with a Restart and some explanation of the difference between Local Copy and Apply / Adjustment's clipboard. [quote="Maggie12" wrote:
after restarting C1 everything seems to work the way I think it should
My reference to using Metadata and a Style seems to be a somewhat different explanation of the workflow... unless of course I overlooked something. 😄0 -
Always fun to visit the forum. Sometimes it can be helpful to others as well, but always fun. 😄 0 -
Greetings - I just saw this thread and am having similar problems with copy adjustments. I change the color temperature on one image to 3500 and then click on the copy adjustments arrow in the toolbar at the top right. I then select all the images and click on the apply adjustments arrow. Nothing happens. I then go into the adjustments clipboard after changing the temperature and click on copy and then select all the images and go to apply - nothing happens. Been doing this for an hour - what am I doing wrong? I am following page 76 in the user guide. thanks - rob 0 -
[quote="Rob" wrote:
Greetings - I just saw this thread and am having similar problems with copy adjustments. I change the color temperature on one image to 3500 and then click on the copy adjustments arrow in the toolbar at the top right. I then select all the images and click on the apply adjustments arrow. Nothing happens. I then go into the adjustments clipboard after changing the temperature and click on copy and then select all the images and go to apply - nothing happens. Been doing this for an hour - what am I doing wrong? I am following page 76 in the user guide. thanks - rob
Check the toggle status of Edit All Selected Variants (toolbar, Edit menu, Sh+Cmd+E). Should be set to ON position.0 -
Paul, thank you for the info - it was checked and I unchecked it and now it works. But it sounds as if you suggested to check it - in any case, it now works - thank you 0 -
[quote="Rob" wrote:
Paul, thank you for the info - it was checked and I unchecked it and now it works. But it sounds as if you suggested to check it - in any case, it now works - thank you
Checked or unchecked: it depends on the version of CO you use, 4 or 5. I believe it reversed with 5.1.0
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