Testing iVMP3; EM; EM2; POMP
Here are my findings testing the four applications:
iView MediaPro 3.1.3 (Build 42E6)
Expression Media SP1 Version 1.0.9058.0
Expression Media 2 SP2 Version 2.0.2096.0
Phase One Media Pro Version 1.2.0.54251
Win 7 x64 SP1; 8 GB RAM;
dng-Codec installed:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Codec
Microsoft Camera Codec Pack:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/de ... x?id=26829
Apple QuickTime 7.7.1, safe mode ( only GDI) enabled
Adobe Reader 10.1.2
PDF-XChange Viewer 2.5
1183 testfiles; 4,88 GB
dng; 112
tiff; 201
jpg; 646
pdf; 224 (4 pages each)
all files with metadata (copyright, keywords, etc., iView userfields) via iView/Bridge CS5;
half of the pdf's reopened with PDF-XChange Viewer and, after regarding extended metadata, saved:
with this treatment Windows "Explorer"(vulgo: filemanager) is able to show keywords (sic!; in 2012!).
iView MediaPro 3.1.3 (Build 42E6)
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [yes]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [no]
Media Previews: [no]
with QuickTime 7.7.1 "eight dot three"-characterproblem! --> not usable
QuickTime 7.3.1 seems working well (catalog-, folder- and filenames ok) :
http://www.oldversion.com/QuickTime.html
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 14:20 minutes / Catalog size: 102,9 MB
errors while importing: 0
thumbnails, media: ok
running own scripts: running, BUT: e.g. writing filename in title (iView:Product) shows the known "eight dot three"-characterproblem! Hieroglyphs - not usable.
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 1 second
light table (dng): < 2 seconds
media view (pdf): < 1 second ( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 2 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
Expression Media SP1 Version 1.0.9058.0
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [yes]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [no]
Media Previews: [no]
QuickTime 7.7.1 seems to work well (catalog-, folder- and filenames ok).
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 14:20 minutes / Catalog size: 102,9 MB
errors while importing: 0
thumbnails, media: ok
running own scripts: running, BUT: e.g. writing filename in title (iView:Product) shows the known "eight dot three"-characterproblem! Hieroglyphs - not usable.
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 1 second
light table (dng): < 2 seconds
media view (pdf): < 1 second ( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 2 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
Expression Media 2 SP2 Version 2.0.2096.0
Preferences changed! (If not, you will get ca. 240x240 px dng's in media/lighttable-view)
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [NO]
Preferred Engine: [WIC]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [YES]
Media Previews: [no]
No QuickTime 7.7.1 issues (the wonder isn't that great).
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 8:50 minutes / Catalog size: 83,4 MB
errors while importing (correct reported): 127 (54 dng and 73 pdf)
additional time to fix errors: 10:00 minutes (action: rebuild element (up to 4 times), sync annotations)
thumbnails, mediaview: imports without error: ok
fixed errors: dng thumbs only ca. 240x240 px
running own scripts: no problem
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 6 seconds
light table (dng): < 11 seconds
media view (pdf): < 2 second ( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 3 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
In contrast to iV3 and EM1 general handling is much less smooth. EM2 needs constantly a minimum 0,3-0,5 seconds "thinking"-delay to fullfill the simpliest orders.
Phase One Media Pro Version 1.2.0.54251
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [NO]
Preferred Engine: [WIC]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [YES]
Media Previews: [no]
No QuickTime 7.7.1 issues.
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 9:50 minutes / Catalog size: 80,9 MB
errors while importing (not reported): 63 (39 dng and 24 pdf)
additional time to fix errors: 7:00 minutes (action: rebuild element)
thumbnails, mediaview: imports without error: ok
fixed errors: thumbs only ca. 240x240 px
running own scripts: no problem
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 6 seconds to not pixelated view
light table (dng): < 12 seconds
media view (pdf): < 2 second ca 610x610 px( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 3 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
Resume:
All 4 applications are practically useless for pdf's on Win7 x64 machines (Drew told me, that Apple machines handel different). You see, where they are; that's it.
EM2 and POMP seem to be quicker on importing, but errorfixing by hand consumes more than the saved time. For huge archives, I would not use them.
If you do not want to install historic Quicktime (6.x) for iView, EM1 seems the best choice, BUT, if you want to run certain scripts, have an eye on what EM1 really does.
Generally speaking: a real update is more than overdue.
iView MediaPro 3.1.3 (Build 42E6)
Expression Media SP1 Version 1.0.9058.0
Expression Media 2 SP2 Version 2.0.2096.0
Phase One Media Pro Version 1.2.0.54251
Win 7 x64 SP1; 8 GB RAM;
dng-Codec installed:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Codec
Microsoft Camera Codec Pack:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/de ... x?id=26829
Apple QuickTime 7.7.1, safe mode ( only GDI) enabled
Adobe Reader 10.1.2
PDF-XChange Viewer 2.5
1183 testfiles; 4,88 GB
dng; 112
tiff; 201
jpg; 646
pdf; 224 (4 pages each)
all files with metadata (copyright, keywords, etc., iView userfields) via iView/Bridge CS5;
half of the pdf's reopened with PDF-XChange Viewer and, after regarding extended metadata, saved:
with this treatment Windows "Explorer"(vulgo: filemanager) is able to show keywords (sic!; in 2012!).
iView MediaPro 3.1.3 (Build 42E6)
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [yes]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [no]
Media Previews: [no]
with QuickTime 7.7.1 "eight dot three"-characterproblem! --> not usable
QuickTime 7.3.1 seems working well (catalog-, folder- and filenames ok) :
http://www.oldversion.com/QuickTime.html
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 14:20 minutes / Catalog size: 102,9 MB
errors while importing: 0
thumbnails, media: ok
running own scripts: running, BUT: e.g. writing filename in title (iView:Product) shows the known "eight dot three"-characterproblem! Hieroglyphs - not usable.
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 1 second
light table (dng): < 2 seconds
media view (pdf): < 1 second ( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 2 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
Expression Media SP1 Version 1.0.9058.0
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [yes]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [no]
Media Previews: [no]
QuickTime 7.7.1 seems to work well (catalog-, folder- and filenames ok).
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 14:20 minutes / Catalog size: 102,9 MB
errors while importing: 0
thumbnails, media: ok
running own scripts: running, BUT: e.g. writing filename in title (iView:Product) shows the known "eight dot three"-characterproblem! Hieroglyphs - not usable.
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 1 second
light table (dng): < 2 seconds
media view (pdf): < 1 second ( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 2 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
Expression Media 2 SP2 Version 2.0.2096.0
Preferences changed! (If not, you will get ca. 240x240 px dng's in media/lighttable-view)
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [NO]
Preferred Engine: [WIC]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [YES]
Media Previews: [no]
No QuickTime 7.7.1 issues (the wonder isn't that great).
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 8:50 minutes / Catalog size: 83,4 MB
errors while importing (correct reported): 127 (54 dng and 73 pdf)
additional time to fix errors: 10:00 minutes (action: rebuild element (up to 4 times), sync annotations)
thumbnails, mediaview: imports without error: ok
fixed errors: dng thumbs only ca. 240x240 px
running own scripts: no problem
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 6 seconds
light table (dng): < 11 seconds
media view (pdf): < 2 second ( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 3 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
In contrast to iV3 and EM1 general handling is much less smooth. EM2 needs constantly a minimum 0,3-0,5 seconds "thinking"-delay to fullfill the simpliest orders.
Phase One Media Pro Version 1.2.0.54251
Preferences > Media Rendering
Images
Rendering: Bicubic (better)
Color Match: [yes]
Use alpha channel: [yes]
Raw
Rendering: Use embedded preview: [NO]
Preferred Engine: [WIC]
Photo CD Size: [Large (slow)]
DCR Look Profile: [portrait]
Edit > Thumbnails and Previews …
Thumbnail size: Variable (Catalog 640px)
Quality: High
Use built-in thumbnails (…): [YES]
Media Previews: [no]
No QuickTime 7.7.1 issues.
Import Images via "Drag’n’Drop"
Time: 9:50 minutes / Catalog size: 80,9 MB
errors while importing (not reported): 63 (39 dng and 24 pdf)
additional time to fix errors: 7:00 minutes (action: rebuild element)
thumbnails, mediaview: imports without error: ok
fixed errors: thumbs only ca. 240x240 px
running own scripts: no problem
running own web-template: no problem, but web-generator is really outdated, produces no proper XHTML 1.0
media view (dng): < 6 seconds to not pixelated view
light table (dng): < 12 seconds
media view (pdf): < 2 second ca 610x610 px( only first page can be seen)
light table (pdf): < 3 seconds ( only first page can be seen)
no further pdf-functionality; not able to read or write metadata.
Resume:
All 4 applications are practically useless for pdf's on Win7 x64 machines (Drew told me, that Apple machines handel different). You see, where they are; that's it.
EM2 and POMP seem to be quicker on importing, but errorfixing by hand consumes more than the saved time. For huge archives, I would not use them.
If you do not want to install historic Quicktime (6.x) for iView, EM1 seems the best choice, BUT, if you want to run certain scripts, have an eye on what EM1 really does.
Generally speaking: a real update is more than overdue.
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Wow, good work!
I hope PhaseOne will pick this up, it's needed.
However, with ealier similar comparisons they did not...
Roelof0 -
[quote="stefanschoenfeld" wrote:
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Resume:
All 4 applications are practically useless for pdf's on Win7 x64 machines ...
Yes, as Roelof just said - excellent work.
It also confirms why I only use MP for my photos. I gave up on pdf's etc long ago.
Jim0 -
Thank you.
Not to forget the deserving work of Roelof
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25580003/Compar ... 20data.pdf
and blumenberg
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=10568
there is a database they could refer back.
For me it remains miraculously, that (and why) newer rendering-machines work so defectively. In earlier times, if you would have seen such a tremendous amount of importing errors, you would have been just before a heart attack, assuming your files were corrupted. Today, this important beside-tool to look at filesanity has gone (not mentioning the extra-work). We really have to control step by step the basics of a DAM-software? Every day? I can't figure out a proper and professional way of working in this manner.
And yes, Jim, your pdf-conclusio is mine too. With x64 I had to learn, that pdf seems to be a so completely exotic, brand-new, top secret, freaky fileformat, that even the inventor has his difficulties to 'handle' with it.
http://www.pretentiousname.com/adobe_pd ... html#downl
Given that, I expect nonetheless, that DAM-software called "Media" could give me some functionality in this regard. Holy simplicity.
Stefan0
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