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Different colors at different zoom level.

Julien Apruzzese
Hi,

I encountered this problem now several time and i need to talk with you about it since i am surprised to be nearly alone to write about it.
The problem becomes of course evident when you work with saturated colors and now i am a little bit confused from the fact that i might not be able to see it on other project.

First, i would like to start with the fact that i love Capture One and because of this, i start to work colors more on Capture One before to send a Tiff 16bits ProPhoto in Photoshop.
What i have encountered is that Capture One previews colors perfectly at 100% zoom level but previews different colors when you zoom less than 50%. So i have perfect color match with Photoshop when i look at the image in Capture One at 100% but not at 50% or below !

My problem is that, in my point of view, color work need to be made at different zoom level, specifically at 25% or below in order to understand relationship between different colors in the entire image.
So i have attached for you 2 screenshots, one showing Photoshop vs Capture One and one showing two different zoom levels in Capture One.

Best regards.

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5464/30559241911_611395ba3f_z.jpgCapture d’écran 2016-10-26 à 23.57.08 by Naninou A, sur Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5691/30530110462_11e8c2f644_z.jpgCapture d’écran 2016-10-29 à 21.36.31 by Naninou A, sur Flickr
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  • LDJ
    Hi

    You are definitely not alone in experiencing this problem. This a long standing issue that Phase is either unable or unwilling to resolve; I have a feeling that the problem is difficult to fix as it is the result of the way that Capture One has been designed to use preview images in the viewer at all zoom levels apart from 100%.

    I have to say that I find it incredibly frustrating that this problem remains: Phase pushes C1 Pro as the go-to application for professionals, with colour control at its heart and, given this, I would expect to be able to view my images with correct colours at all zoom levels; how on earth is it possible to make adjustments to colour, tone and contrast without seeing the whole image?

    Here are a couple of links where this problem has been discussed, one very recent:

    viewtopic.php?f=57&t=20965&p=99346#p99346

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/image-proce ... ew-c1.html

    I can only suggest that you raise a support case to raise awareness once again to this issue as, when an image is affected noticeably by the problem, it can be a real pain to deal with.

    Best

    Liam
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  • Drugstore
    But you can calibrate your EIZO out of CO9 to make it clearly visible 🤓
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  • SFA
    I would guess that this has something to do with which pixels are selected for binning when using the smaller sizes.

    Certain colours, notably "yellow", can appear to change colour between large and small pixel dimensions.

    For best results a 100% view is recommended.

    If you are planning a small output work to the size you expect to use.

    In general our eyes (and print devices) will not produce the exact colours anyway (especially at smaller sizes). The mixes of different coloured pixels that are used to make up what we think of as colours will almost always introduce compromises if a significant amount of scaling is applied.
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  • Julien Apruzzese
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    I would guess that this has something to do with which pixels are selected for binning when using the smaller sizes.

    Certain colours, notably "yellow", can appear to change colour between large and small pixel dimensions.

    For best results a 100% view is recommended.

    If you are planning a small output work to the size you expect to use.

    In general our eyes (and print devices) will not produce the exact colours anyway (especially at smaller sizes). The mixes of different coloured pixels that are used to make up what we think of as colours will almost always introduce compromises if a significant amount of scaling is applied.


    I never had this problem in Photoshop or Lightroom.
    I am in love with Capture One but this problem is stressing me out.
    And it's IMPOSSIBLE to work colors at 100 %.
    I am really surprised that this thread has not more replies...
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  • SFA
    [quote="Naninou" wrote:
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    I would guess that this has something to do with which pixels are selected for binning when using the smaller sizes.

    Certain colours, notably "yellow", can appear to change colour between large and small pixel dimensions.

    For best results a 100% view is recommended.

    If you are planning a small output work to the size you expect to use.

    In general our eyes (and print devices) will not produce the exact colours anyway (especially at smaller sizes). The mixes of different coloured pixels that are used to make up what we think of as colours will almost always introduce compromises if a significant amount of scaling is applied.


    I never had this problem in Photoshop or Lightroom.
    I am in love with Capture One but this problem is stressing me out.
    And it's IMPOSSIBLE to work colors at 100 %.
    I am really surprised that this thread has not more replies...


    I seem to recall it has been covered in an earlier thread.

    With so many people apparently using 4k or 5k screens these days I assume many are working at close to 100% much of the time anyway.

    At 25% one often experiences a loss of details - something that might be as important as critical colour issues to many people. Loss of details and compromised colours often go together in certain situations when viewing below 50% in my experience.

    I can understand how different things have different levels of importance if certain situations.

    Photoshop and Lightroom should probably be considered as a single tool in the context of colour rendition.

    I have to say that when I use LR for a while and attempted to compare it to another favoured editor of the time I was never really sure about what it was doing and how it arrived at its results - but that was a decade ago and I am sure things will be different now.


    Grant
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  • FirstName LastName
    Same issue on windows, and I find that unaceptable.
    it's been more than two years that Phase One knows about this, and still not fixed.

    I´m seriously thinking to go back to Lightroom.
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