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5d mk3 color........

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  • Keith Reeder
    Any suggestions?

    Yep - post some examples. "Squirrely" isn't a particularly helpful description of your problem, really...
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    You solution might be at hand by tweaking your color with the Color Editor (either or both the Advanced tab and/or the Skin Tone tab). Next, save the changes in a new ICC Profile and apply the profile instead of the default generic profile.

    Note that when you apply the new profile, remove the adjustments you made with Color Editor.
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  • Mark701
    [quote="Paul_E" wrote:
    You solution might be at hand by tweaking your color with the Color Editor (either or both the Advanced tab and/or the Skin Tone tab). Next, save the changes in a new ICC Profile and apply the profile instead of the default generic profile.

    Note that when you apply the new profile, remove the adjustments you made with Color Editor.


    thanks Paul, i am aware of the color editor, the intracies of it, i am not. could you please explain smoothness, lightness, and uniformity and the intracies of each?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Some notes on Color Editor (CE).

    With CE you edit a sampled color. Use the color picker for the respective editor (Basic, Advanced, Skin Tone). You can use multiple edits from respective editors, or in other words you are not restricted to each of the three editors per image. However, in general you will use only one editor.

    Lightness slider allows you to make a color lighter (+) or darker (-), where the Saturation slider controls the saturation of the sampled color.

    Smoothness slider determines how smooth (or not) the area is of the sampled color to the colors not part of the edit. You can see this in the color circle, where the sampled color is separated from the rest by a smooth fading area or a harsh line.

    Hue rotation slider changes the color sample into a color next to it at the color circle. Note that a positive value move the sample into a counter-clockwise direction (making red more yellowish) and vice versa (making red more pink)

    Uniformity is only available in the Skin Tone editor. It can be regarded as a kind of smoothness inside the sampled color. This is typically used to remove or lower unevenness in skin tone (reddish areas in face). How-to: sample the skin tone; expand the sample in the color circle (drag with mouse) to include the color (reddish cast for example) you like to remove; adjust the uniformity slider to bring colors inside the sample closer to each other, making it more uniform.

    The Skin Tone editor allows you to sample only one color (make one sample) per image. The Advanced Editor allows you to make multiple sampled colors, which can adjusted each independently. Apart from the Uniformity slider, the Advanced Editor is the most versatile.

    Although I earlier suggested to save adjustments as an ICC Profile, you could as an intermediate step save it in one or more different presets first. Applying a preset and adjusting it if deemed necessary is a more flexible approach until you are quite happy about a particular preset/adjustments. Then you save it as a profile and apply it accordingly in the Base Characteristics tool.

    Edit: added Hue rotation slider explanation.
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  • Mark701
    Wow Paul, thanks😳,excellent info. im looking for an all around profile for using with portraits, so i wont have to make a new profile every time, suggestions please.
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  • Mark701
    sorry for ommiting this, but being a canon camera it is TOO RED, especially the skin tones😡
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Mark701" wrote:
    Wow Paul, thanks😳,excellent info. im looking for an all around profile for using with portraits, so i wont have to make a new profile every time, suggestions please.

    You only have to make a new profile once. The profile includes the adjustments that you made with Color Editor.

    For example, you select a skin tone with the CE Skin Tone editor.
    Next, you use the Hue Rotation slider (see added explanation in previous post) to make it less red (more yellowish) and change lightness and saturation if necessary.
    Next, you save the adjustments in an ICC profile. How-to save ICC Profile: on CE's title bar, click on the small triangle at the right, select 'Save as ICC Profile...' and provide a short descriptive name.

    Next, apply the profile as mentioned earlier.

    Tip: first experiment a bit with CE to find settings you like. Optional, use the preset feature develop and optimize the desired general adjustment. When satisfied, save the adjustments in your new profile as the final step.
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  • NNN634774256671555700
    After save ICC profile, how I can import to used them? I swap to Base Characteristics and used drop down menu and choose Import but not work. thks so much.
    And I wanna ask, what different between: save ICC Profile and Save user present?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="NNN634774256671555700" wrote:
    After save ICC profile, how I can import to used them? I swap to Base Characteristics and used drop down menu and choose Import but not work.

    Once you saved settings in Color Editor into an ICC Profile, you do not need to import it with the Base Characteristics tool. Instead, you can find it in the drop-down list with other profiles for your camera. For example Canon > Canon 5D mkII <name> where <name> is what you entered when saving the profile.
    [quote="NNN634774256671555700" wrote:
    And I wanna ask, what different between: save ICC Profile and Save user present?

    The difference is subtle and is mainly workflow related.

    As an ICC Profile, you best save settings you like to use in a broader perspective, in general or more often, like all sunset images, or studio flash, or landscape. You create a new base characteristic. Note that Color Editor does not reflect the settings you stored in the profile after you applied a custom profile. For short: a profile is camera specific and intended for general purpose.

    A preset gives you flexibility after the fact. After you applied a preset you can tweak it per image, apply that to other images in your shoot like any other adjustment and it is not camera specific. This is more suited for incidental changes.
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