Edit With question
When I use the Edit With command C1 opens a dialog box that allows me to select what editor I wish to use. When I click on the Open With dropdown box in the dialog box C1 gives me a list of what it considers to be the available choices. I can, of course, then select something not in the dropdown list, but how does C1 determine what it uses to fill out the dropbox box?
Some editors never make the list, even if I have used them multiple times, and I have to go search for them each time by browsing (unless they were the last item used). Is there any way to get C1 to add something to that dropbox box so it will be there every time I open the dialog box?
Some editors never make the list, even if I have used them multiple times, and I have to go search for them each time by browsing (unless they were the last item used). Is there any way to get C1 to add something to that dropbox box so it will be there every time I open the dialog box?
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As I understand that list is populated by apps that registered in OS that they CAN open that extension. I.e identical to a list that you get in FINDER, and there is no way to add something to list unless app itself asssoiates it as editor for that extension.
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[quote="Andriy.Okhrimets" wrote:
As I understand that list is populated by apps that registered in OS that they CAN open that extension. I.e identical to a list that you get in FINDER, and there is no way to add something to list unless app itself asssoiates it as editor for that extension.
Hope that makes sense
Thank you for your response.
Your answer seems to make some sense (and I can not think of any other explanation), but I did a little experiment. I opened C1, selected an image and listed all of the editors shown in the dropbox. I then opened Finder and right-clicked on some images and looked at the list of apps that Finder says it can use to open that image. I assumed, from your response, that the two should be the same. They are not, at least not completely.
Most of the items on both lists are the same but there is at least one app in each list that is not in the other. C1 lists "Grab" which is an Apple application, but it is not available from Finder and Finder lists a bunch of Corel AfterShot Pro versions (which I did not even know where on my system) that are not listed in C1. In addition, for some reason, C1 also lists C1 as an available external app, which does not seem to make much sense to me (although I tried it and C1 does indeed open a new C1 window with the image if I tell it to call C1).
Still, perhaps this is right as I can see no other explanation. Thank you for your help.0 -
Andriy
That may be true, but if so the registration is not very good! The default dropdown does not includes Apple's own Aperture or even (sharp intake of breath) Photos. The list in the presumably related Edit with dropdown likewise ignores Aperture, but includes HPScan, Preview and ColorSync which hardly qualify functionally. Not too bothered by this, but it would be nice if an app selected using "Other" in both of them was automatically added to the list.0 -
Strange that CO does add 'LibreOffice' to the 'Edit With...' list after 1st use, but not 'Photos'.
No idea why.
Regards,
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[quote="HansB" wrote:
Strange that CO does add 'LibreOffice' to the 'Edit With...' list after 1st use, but not 'Photos'.
No idea why.
Regards,
Hans
Does Photos support the concept of being used as an external editor by another program?
Indeed, would it offer anything of benefit, as an editor, if it does?
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[quote="SFA" wrote:
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Does Photos support the concept of being used as an external editor by another program?
Indeed, would it offer anything of benefit, as an editor, if it does?
Grant
I just gave it a try because of[quote="NN635770922769309595UL" wrote:
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The default dropdown does not includes Apple's own Aperture or even (sharp intake of breath) Photos. The list in the presumably related Edit with dropdown likewise ignores Aperture, but includes HPScan, Preview and ColorSync which hardly qualify functionally. Not too bothered by this, but it would be nice if an app selected using "Other" in both of them was automatically added to the list.
I guess I missed the 'default' in 'default dropdown' there.
Does LibreOffice make sense as external editor for CO? No. Nor does Photos, at least for me.
But CO adds LibreOffice to it's 'Edit With...' list. I selected it by accident, at 3 o'clock in the morning, still working in CO. Should have been sleeping, or already was.
Just another find of what does populate the list and what doesn't.
Regards,
Hans0 -
It makes sense to me, if not to the developers, that C1 should add often used editors to the default list in both Edit With and Open In. I don't understand why they don't. Searching through the folders for the proper app is not terrible, but it can be a pain when there is work to be done on multiple images and the editor you want is not listed.
Added to that is my confusion as to why the Edit With and Open In defaults don't make much sense when compared against each other. For example, Edit With includes the PhotoLine editor, but Open In does not. That makes no sense to me since PhotoLine is a good decent raw editor that does a perfectly good job with my Canon raw images. Why one and not the other? I could understand if an editor worked for, say, tiffs and jpgs, but not raws, but when an editor is a raw editor its presence on one list and absence on the other just does not make much sense to me.0 -
[quote="HansB" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:
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Does Photos support the concept of being used as an external editor by another program?
Indeed, would it offer anything of benefit, as an editor, if it does?
Grant
I just gave it a try because of[quote="NN635770922769309595UL" wrote:
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The default dropdown does not includes Apple's own Aperture or even (sharp intake of breath) Photos. The list in the presumably related Edit with dropdown likewise ignores Aperture, but includes HPScan, Preview and ColorSync which hardly qualify functionally. Not too bothered by this, but it would be nice if an app selected using "Other" in both of them was automatically added to the list.
I guess I missed the 'default' in 'default dropdown' there.
Does LibreOffice make sense as external editor for CO? No. Nor does Photos, at least for me.
But CO adds LibreOffice to it's 'Edit With...' list. I selected it by accident, at 3 o'clock in the morning, still working in CO. Should have been sleeping, or already was.
Just another find of what does populate the list and what doesn't.
Regards,
Hans
Hans,
Yes, I understand your concern about logic but is a developer chooses to announce to an OS that his/her/its development can (for whatever purpose) support certain types of activity ... then it will become available. Unless there is some sort of "blacklist" that other developers pay some attention to.
I doubt that Apple care at all whether their applications are avail;abel to other editors as external apps OR EVEN allow external apps to be opened from within their applications. Not at the first release in any case.
It seems that later releases may allow some level of "integration" for Photos - though not very comprehensive according to the web info I have found and read.
And really, why should they care? The target market for Photos seems to be the iphone/ipad user. The cloud the method of image sharing.
A former Aperture user with 130k images looking to put a life on line might be somewhat challenged by the concept. Even more by the idea of using Photos as en external editor for Aperture (I assume).
Maybe Apple just do not want to make the dire possibility of editing via Photos from another application any sort of possibility at all?.
Grant0
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