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Media Pro Keywording

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  • Le_Lion_07
    Hello.

    I don't know english as well to understand what "scratch" means, but you have in MP a tool to create presets.

    You select any photo, you choose (I) on the toolbar (Info panel), then you clic on the "little pen" and in the scrolling menu, you choose "Create a metadata set" (or something like that, I use MP in french, of course...)
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  • David Medina
    I'll Check that out but what I mean is that every time I create a new catalog I do not have to create the keywords again. An example may help;

    I am a wedding photographer and I classify my images from a wedding using keywords: Bride, Groom, Ceremony, etc. If I create a MP Catalog per wedding I do not want to have to create the keywords each time.
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  • Paul Silk
    I presume you mean hierarchical key word sets as every time you open a new catalogue there are no hierarchical keywords?

    If this is what you mean then the answer is no, there is not a way to do it in Mediapro itself.

    But there are two workarounds that work for me.

    1-And this one is at your own risk as get it wrong and you have lost a lot of pre done work.

    Remove NOT DELETE all your image from a already hierarchical keyworded catalogue be sure not to save normaly at this stage, now save the empty catalogue under a new name, now close down the open catalogue without saving when asked .

    Now when you open the new catalogue created it will be empty with all the hierarchical keywords and your old catalogue will be as it was as you did not save the changes when you removed the images.

    2- This is a safer but more time consuming the first time. Open a image that is not important to you (reject or copy) and apply every hierarchical key word to it then sync the annotations to it making sure the "include hierarchical keywords" is ticked.

    Now every time you make a new catalogue import this one master image and all your hierarchical keywords will be written to it.

    Just seen you last reply, if you do not mean hierarchical keywords but normal keyword without having to retype them then the answer is the same and you would have to use my no 2 suggestion as no1 would not work.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Paul, I think the hierarchical keyword discussion might be leading us astray. I think the original poster's question was much more basic.

    Le Lion's solution will do what the original poster wants:

    1. Select one image (let's call it "Image 001") that contains your desired keywords (wedding, groom, ceremony, etc.)
    2. In the Info pane, click the little pen icon at the top and, from the drop down menu that opens, select the "Save as Metadata Template" option. This saves all the metadata associated with Image 001 as a preset (let's call it "Weddings") that will be listed in the same drop down menu that you used to create it. (You can uncheck any data that you don't want.)
    3. Open the new catalog and select your new wedding images.
    4. Click the little pen icon and, from the drop down menu that opens, select preset "Weddings".

    Voilá. All of your new wedding photos now have all the wedding keywords.
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  • Paul Silk
    [quote="syncrasy" wrote:
    Paul, I think the hierarchical keyword discussion might be leading us astray. I think the original poster's question was much more basic.

    Le Lion's solution will do what the original poster wants:

    1. Select one image (let's call it "Image 001") that contains your desired keywords (wedding, groom, ceremony, etc.)
    2. In the Info pane, click the little pen icon at the top and, from the drop down menu that opens, select the "Save as Metadata Template". This saves all the metadata associated with Image 001 as a preset (let's call it "Weddings") that will be listed in the same drop down menu that you used to create it. (You can uncheck any data that you don't want.)
    3. Select your new wedding images in the other catalog.
    4. Click the little pen icon and, from the drop down menu that opens, select preset "Weddings".

    Voilá. All of your new wedding photos now have all the wedding keywords.


    That presumes all his keywords are used on one image (which I doubt), if not then you are back to my suggestion no2. 😉
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Paul Silk" wrote:
    [quote="syncrasy" wrote:
    Paul, I think the hierarchical keyword discussion might be leading us astray. I think the original poster's question was much more basic.

    Le Lion's solution will do what the original poster wants:

    1. Select one image (let's call it "Image 001") that contains your desired keywords (wedding, groom, ceremony, etc.)
    2. In the Info pane, click the little pen icon at the top and, from the drop down menu that opens, select the "Save as Metadata Template". This saves all the metadata associated with Image 001 as a preset (let's call it "Weddings") that will be listed in the same drop down menu that you used to create it. (You can uncheck any data that you don't want.)
    3. Select your new wedding images in the other catalog.
    4. Click the little pen icon and, from the drop down menu that opens, select preset "Weddings".

    Voilá. All of your new wedding photos now have all the wedding keywords.


    That presumes all his keywords are used on one image (which I doubt), if not then you are back to my suggestion no2. 😉


    I was assuming he wasn't using hierarchical keywords. My step "1" implies that he has to verify that all the desired keywords (wedding, groom, ceremony, etc.) are associated with the "master" image. If not he has to create them for that image. As far as I know, regular keywords are shared across all Expression Media or Media Pro catalogs (while hierarchical keywords require your gymnastics). Or am I missing something?

    Original poster, are you using regular keywords or hierarchical keywords?
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  • David Medina
    I am assuming that I mean hierarchical keywords, but now I am not 100% sure because I didn't know not there was a difference.

    But What I have done so fat is to create the keyword on the left pane where it says hierarchical keywords.

    How does the other type of keyword works.

    In my specific case each image will have basically one keyword.
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  • rmoorlag
    In the past i used also a 'travel' image to put all keywords in from one catalog to another.
    However, this worked only with 'normal' keywords so what i do nowadays is:
    Copy one (recent) catalog with all the (hierachiecal) keywords you need.
    Delete all images in this second catalog.
    And there you are: an empy catalog with all keywords, hierachiecal keywords, catalog sets, etc!

    Roelof
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  • David Medina
    Hopefully they will add this feature to Media Pro in the near feature as it could be very useful.
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