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Edit Capture Time

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  • Juerg1
    you can do this with an exif editor, e.g. http://exifeditorapp.com for Mac, works just fine also for batch processing. Don't need C1 for that.
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  • David Rogers
    [quote="Juerg1" wrote:
    you can do this with an exif editor, e.g. http://exifeditorapp.com for Mac, works just fine also for batch processing. Don't need C1 for that.


    Thanks for the link to exif editor. A solution... of sorts.

    The reason I would Like C1 to do it is because I already own C1 AND program "x" already does it natively. In addition I took a glance at the specs and file formats compatibility and could not see any reference to Phase One IIQ files. Do you know that it functions with those files?
    Or with whatever file format a Hasselblad scanner produces. 3F.
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  • Indiana
    Sorry to chime in but Lightroom allows changing of capture time and date. Why not C1? Why should I have load yet a another program just to be able correct time in an access management database? Doesn't make sense to me. I can't believe PhaseOne would leave that out.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    [quote="NNN635125265831469043" wrote:
    Sorry to chime in but Lightroom allows changing of capture time and date. Why not C1? Why should I have load yet a another program just to be able correct time in an access management database? Doesn't make sense to me. I can't believe PhaseOne would leave that out.

    So use a support case to make a feature request.

    Ian
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN635125265831469043" wrote:
    Sorry to chime in but Lightroom allows changing of capture time and date. Why not C1? Why should I have load yet a another program just to be able correct time in an access management database? Doesn't make sense to me. I can't believe PhaseOne would leave that out.


    I can.

    They operate to a fundamental, to them, rule that they will never modify (and therefore risk the integrity of) a "RAW" file (or more pertinently an "original" file) under any circumstances.

    I don't have a problem with that principle.


    Grant.
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  • David Rogers
    [quote="SFA" wrote:


    They operate to a fundamental, to them, rule that they will never modify (and therefore risk the integrity of) a "RAW" file (or more pertinently an "original" file) under any circumstances.

    I don't have a problem with that principle.


    Grant.


    I can understand a desire to maintain integrity of an image but I also think if thats the actual reason why it has not been implemented then its a tad flawed.
    Firstly, the program (and by association Phase One) are not altering the Raw data, the end user is by choice. And only then could it be considered altered if a derivative file is made as the appearance of the original file can be returned.
    Second, one could apply the same principal of metadata/recipe change to the file dates. Simply make it part of the external sidecar data, only applicable if read by a C1 session or catalog.

    Its still the end user that will be making the decision to make the alteration. Forgetting to change the time zone in a camera may be a minor thing, the year and probably the month would still be close to accurate but for scanned originals there is a significant organizational tool missing without this feature.

    I don't really like to compare what one program can do versus another out of respect to the designers but in many cases features are customer driven, or should be, and if a competitor can do "x" then I believe there should be an expectation of implementation from the user base.

    In this instance we are not talking about a RAW editing feature but a file management feature. Trust me I badger Adobe as much about their lack of features in the Library Module, such as the basic ability to view my assets as a list.
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  • SFA
    I understand what you are saying about a file management feature. However whenever something is changed it means reading the images into memory, apply the changed data and re-writing it to disk.

    By making the interaction with the original file read only there can never be accusations of making changes to the RAW data that cannot be defended. Whether that is a paranoid approach is a different discussion. I guess the attitudes to that will depend on which part of the Professional photography market one works in.

    If the file is somehow damaged by some computing activity - and lets face it active field and their component data blocks are moved about all the time by storage management tools - at least there can be no claim that the adverse effects were caused by a C1 edit or write activity.


    Grant
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  • Mark Golledge
    greetings! i downloaded the suggested exif editor. chose edit with and made my changes, hit process. now how does CO see the changes? not seeing them in CO. Do I need to export and reimport? hoping for an edit within like Photoshop and saves directly.
    thanks for your help!
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  • John Doe
    [quote="NN635019274682096488UL" wrote:
    greetings! i downloaded the suggested exif editor. chose edit with and made my changes, hit process. now how does CO see the changes? not seeing them in CO. Do I need to export and reimport? hoping for an edit within like Photoshop and saves directly.
    thanks for your help!

    Did you try to reload metadata ?
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  • Mark Golledge
    never mind! changed the image date, but at the bottom in the exif editor there is a date created section at the bottom. changed that too and worked! yes!!!
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  • Indiana
    [quote="David A Rogers" wrote:
    Edit Capture Time

    I don’t believe its possible but I will ask: Is there a way to edit the capture time of an image or set of images?
    I think this could be useful for two reasons.
    1. I forgot to change the date and time when i travel.
    2. I scan a bunch of images in 2015 that I know to be taken in 1985.

    The ability to change the time would make finding and organizing by date (a common attribute) much more accurate and therefore efficient.

    I submitted this as a feature request.


    I whole heartedly agree with implementing this feature as well as allowing ability to turn file count on and off at the root folder so the file count off the entire folder including subfolders can be seen without having to open the root folder.
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  • OddS.
    [quote="David A Rogers" wrote:
    ...
    1. I forgot to change the date and time when i travel.
    2. I scan a bunch of images in 2015 that I know to be taken in 1985.


    Third case: You need to sort event images (wedding, say) from multiple cameras in a true time sequence.
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  • peter Frings
    I just bumped into the same problem ☹️ Trip to the Alps with a friend whose camera was an hour off. Now trying to compare shots from both camera's... I'm scrolling up and down for hours!

    I understand that PhaseOne doesn't want to alter the original files, but storing the adjusted date in the database or sidecar would solve our issues without breaking their holy oath.

    It's the same bizarre situation when importing a *gasp* video file: you can't rate or tag it! What?

    Cheers,
    Peter.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I perfectly agree with the Phase One policy not to alter the exif metadata. Otherwise, it would open the door to many bias in publishing pictures, for instance.
    But I faced the problem when I had to scan old negatives for which I knew (approximately) the date of capture. I have used "ExifTool" (© Phil Harvey), which works quite well, but you have to enter some commands with the terminal. A little bit discouraging for some people (though I did it without any serious issue, even if I know almost nothing about computers).
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  • peter Frings
    [quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
    I perfectly agree with the Phase One policy not to alter the exif metadata. Otherwise, it would open the door to many bias in publishing pictures, for instance.
    But I faced the problem when I had to scan old negatives for which I knew (approximately) the date of capture. I have used "ExifTool" (© Phil Harvey), which works quite well, but you have to enter some commands with the terminal. A little bit discouraging for some people (though I did it without any serious issue, even if I know almost nothing about computers).


    Indeed, I used exiftool to fix the dates (you'll have to change all 3 dates in the exif), but the problem remains for e.g. movie files. Fixing the dates is one thing, but not being able to color-tag or rate them messes up my workflow.

    Cheers,
    Peter.
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