Keywording (poss Hierarchical?)for image library submission
I am faced with the task of keywording >12000 predominantly landscape images, many of which for image library submission. I'd then like to be able to keyword new images as they are added to my library so that they are ready for exporting to the commercial library.
I want to do this in the most time effective way possible, providing a wide, yet accurate range of keywords to boost visibility in search strings.
Please can anyone point me in the right direction to resources that address these issues?
I am aware that historically iView/Expression Media was extensively used by image libraries, so it must be time effective and comprehensive. But there seems little documentation on how to do this.
There are precious few tutorials and those that do exist seem to cover only minimalist keywording for own-use DAM rather than the more extensive lists expected from image libraries.
Previously I have made a few presets in Adobe Bridge and appended these. It isn't that efficient, but seems far better than what is available in LR5 with keyword sets seemingly limited to just 9 keywords....
Having read about the matter, I see the jury is out regarding Hierarchical Keywords. That said, currently it seems Media Pro expects every user to build their lists from scratch. I cannot find a way to import a Hierarchical Keyword library from Phase One, but have submitted support ticket. A google search revealed instructions I found on Controlled Vocabulary website. I have tried this with no success from an exported version from LR5 and had checked .txt file was in correct format.
I want to do this in the most time effective way possible, providing a wide, yet accurate range of keywords to boost visibility in search strings.
Please can anyone point me in the right direction to resources that address these issues?
I am aware that historically iView/Expression Media was extensively used by image libraries, so it must be time effective and comprehensive. But there seems little documentation on how to do this.
There are precious few tutorials and those that do exist seem to cover only minimalist keywording for own-use DAM rather than the more extensive lists expected from image libraries.
Previously I have made a few presets in Adobe Bridge and appended these. It isn't that efficient, but seems far better than what is available in LR5 with keyword sets seemingly limited to just 9 keywords....
Having read about the matter, I see the jury is out regarding Hierarchical Keywords. That said, currently it seems Media Pro expects every user to build their lists from scratch. I cannot find a way to import a Hierarchical Keyword library from Phase One, but have submitted support ticket. A google search revealed instructions I found on Controlled Vocabulary website. I have tried this with no success from an exported version from LR5 and had checked .txt file was in correct format.
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Well 37 views, but no-one able to offer any advice.
Reply from my support case is this
'Hi - we read your questions and input - however the applications are different and keywording cannot be shared/imported - this goes both ways.
There are no intentions to change this as Media PRO have reached a stage where more and more features are adopted into Capture One in terms of features and camera use. We are sorry if this does not meet your intentions or wishes.'
Sounds like development of Media Pro has stopped. I've been looking at Photo Mechanic which looks really well featured to do the tasks - however, I discovered today that it cannot read IIQ files from Phase One backs. Photo Mechanic read in two separate Hierarchical keyword sets from .txt files in an instant and merged them. Just as I would have expected.
Looks like the way ahead is to create keyword sets in Photo Mechanic from the hierarchical lists, apply them to my NEF files and then copy across to similar IIQ images in another application LR5 or Media Pro.0 -
Hi,
David Riecks site is very useful for keywording strategies. As is the ASMP dpBestflow site.
Phase One have video tutorials on using Media Pro. Peter Krogh shows how to use Sets which you can substitute with keywords. I still find Media Pro the fastest catalog app to keyword with. Photo Mechanic is the fastest image browser for keywording.
My advice is steer clear of hierarchical keywords if you want to share and use keywords with photo libraries. Media Pro uses the Adobe hierarchical keyword namespace, which while working within the IPTC Core XMP standard, they may require end users to have the namespace mapped to see it. In theory Media Pro writes legacy IPTC keywords alongside any hierarchical keywords you add, but in practise I've seen the two sometimes cause conflicts.
Legacy IPTC keywords, while messy to read in a long flat structure, can at least be read by almost any app including operating systems.
-- Robert.0
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