What computer to get?
Hi guy!
I just recently got C1 4 pro works great. But I would like some more speed because i'm working with bigger files now, 5dmk2 and digital back files.
Today i'm running a AMD S939 x2 4800 processor with 4gb of ram udner win 32 xp pro.
I was thinking :
Core i7-920?
Which motherboard, would like a stable one.
Vista 64 ultimate
12gb of ram
Would like this to run smooth on cs4 aswell, so what graphic card to get?
any other suggestions? comments?
I just recently got C1 4 pro works great. But I would like some more speed because i'm working with bigger files now, 5dmk2 and digital back files.
Today i'm running a AMD S939 x2 4800 processor with 4gb of ram udner win 32 xp pro.
I was thinking :
Core i7-920?
Which motherboard, would like a stable one.
Vista 64 ultimate
12gb of ram
Would like this to run smooth on cs4 aswell, so what graphic card to get?
any other suggestions? comments?
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Core i7 sounds good to me performance wise, in particular if you like the newest technology and want more than 8 GB RAM. Regarding a graphic card I suggest you look for a known brand with solid driver support (signed drivers required for Vista x64). Note that X58 chipset motherboards support the PCI-e 2.0 standard for your card. If you need tethered support, you might have a problem with an x64 operating system.
You also might join the discussion on the other thread on hardware running at the moment here:
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[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
Core i7 sounds good to me performance wise, in particular if you like the newest technology and want more than 8 GB RAM. Regarding a graphic card I suggest you look for a known brand with solid driver support (signed drivers required for Vista x64). Note that X58 chipset motherboards support the PCI-e 2.0 standard for your card. If you need tethered support, you might have a problem with an x64 operating system.
You also might join the discussion on the other thread on hardware running at the moment here:
viewtopic.php?p=28000#p28000
Okej thank you. A medium 512mb graphic card for aroudn 150$ should do the trick then?
I was thinking abuot 12gb of ram.
Why would tethered be a problem with x64?0 -
[quote="Daniel" wrote:
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A medium 512mb graphic card for aroudn 150$ should do the trick then?
I was thinking abuot 12gb of ram.
Why would tethered be a problem with x64?
A lightweight graphics adapter (to current standards) will do. Even a 256 MB card will support you in the most demanding photographic situations with 2 large screen (look for dual DVI-I connectors). I prefer low power consuming adapters with passive cooling; low noise and saves on power unit as well.
12 GB is sufficient, I think, for the next few years. In current triple channel memory (2x 3 DIMMs of same capacity) on some X58 motherboards, you can install either 3x 4 GB or 6x 2 GB. Watch the memory speed according to your processor's front side bus (FSB).
Due to lack of 64-bit device drivers from camera manufacturers, tethering will not work today with Capture One or native tools like Canon EOS Utility. One Nikon user has reported successful connectivity here, so it is not that black & white. See the thread I mentioned before.0 -
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
[quote="Daniel" wrote:
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A medium 512mb graphic card for aroudn 150$ should do the trick then?
I was thinking abuot 12gb of ram.
Why would tethered be a problem with x64?
A lightweight graphics adapter (to current standards) will do. Even a 256 MB card will support you in the most demanding photographic situations with 2 large screen (look for dual DVI-I connectors). I prefer low power consuming adapters with passive cooling; low noise and saves on power unit as well.
12 GB is sufficient, I think, for the next few years. In current triple channel memory (2x 3 DIMMs of same capacity) on some X58 motherboards, you can install either 3x 4 GB or 6x 2 GB. Watch the memory speed according to your processor's front side bus (FSB).
Due to lack of 64-bit device drivers from camera manufacturers, tethering will not work today with Capture One or native tools like Canon EOS Utility. One Nikon user has reported successful connectivity here, so it is not that black & white. See the thread I mentioned before.
Okej, thank you for the input. Was thinking 6x2gb and then i could upgrade in the future to 6x4gb when the price drops a bit more.
Is a 256mb graphic card sufficient even for the new functions in cs4?
Seems like ppl manage to do thethered shooting with x64 anda x32 as a virtual machine?
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[quote="Daniel" wrote:
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Is a 256mb graphic card sufficient even for the new functions in cs4?
Seems like ppl manage to do thethered shooting with x64 anda x32 as a virtual machine?
Do u think phase one will release those drivers soon?
I am not aware of new functions of CS4 requiring a certain amount of video memory. Please enlighten me when I missed here something. However, some GPU-accelerated features require graphics support for Shader Model 3.0 and OpenGL 2.0.
A virtual machine (with Win x86 = 32-bit) is a solution indeed as I already suggested in another thread to work around tethered shooting with an x64 machine.
I have no information about future x64 support by Phase One or other vendors like Canon or Nikon for tethering.0 -
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
[quote="Daniel" wrote:
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Is a 256mb graphic card sufficient even for the new functions in cs4?
Seems like ppl manage to do thethered shooting with x64 anda x32 as a virtual machine?
Do u think phase one will release those drivers soon?
I am not aware of new functions of CS4 requiring a certain amount of video memory. Please enlighten me when I missed here something. However, some GPU-accelerated features require graphics support for Shader Model 3.0 and OpenGL 2.0.
A virtual machine (with Win x86 = 32-bit) is a solution indeed as I already suggested in another thread to work around tethered shooting with an x64 machine.
I have no information about future x64 support by Phase One or other vendors like Canon or Nikon for tethering.
I dont know about amount of memory either 😊 just a though.0 -
As far as graphics cards, gl2 and Directx 10 really help CS4....and as far as memory, I'd think 512 in the higher end cards is about the minimum you can get...remember that you're buying for the next 2-3 years ona video card or one more iteration of PS....
Check the iCore boards by ASus on their site, should give you an idea of the feature set to choose from.....low end iCore is a relative bargain, the extreme is just that....memory is best utilized in multiples of 3, so 5 or 12 gigs would be the efficient choice, DDR3 has dropped a ton....of course you need 64 bit to advantage that, but Vista 64 is running well for me, so the release of Win7 is not as imperative....
PS CS4, Cone, and vid cards drivers all play well with V64...this is a better time to proceed than when I did over a year ago.....if you want multimedia (audio over HDMI), Permiere CS4 and NVidia has the edge in hardware IMHO....0 -
[quote="John" wrote:
As far as graphics cards, gl2 and Directx 10 really help CS4....and as far as memory, I'd think 512 in the higher end cards is about the minimum you can get...remember that you're buying for the next 2-3 years ona video card or one more iteration of PS....
Check the iCore boards by ASus on their site, should give you an idea of the feature set to choose from.....low end iCore is a relative bargain, the extreme is just that....memory is best utilized in multiples of 3, so 5 or 12 gigs would be the efficient choice, DDR3 has dropped a ton....of course you need 64 bit to advantage that, but Vista 64 is running well for me, so the release of Win7 is not as imperative....
PS CS4, Cone, and vid cards drivers all play well with V64...this is a better time to proceed than when I did over a year ago.....if you want multimedia (audio over HDMI), Permiere CS4 and NVidia has the edge in hardware IMHO....
Okej, do you recommend any specific motherboard and graphic card that go well win w64 (that has good drivers)0 -
Okej, do you recommend any specific motherboard and graphic card that go well win w64 (that has good drivers)[/quote]
Well, as I said...I had 3 built more than a year ago (when the QuadCore Extreme was released) and just before CS4..so nothing specific for the CPU I would choose today AFA motherboards for the icores, I do like Asus...
I have updated my video cards to accomodate CS4's video acceleration...to an NVidia 9800 512 on one, an ATI HD 4800 512 meg on another, and an NVidia 260GTX 896 meg....the latter two to also access the benfits of HD audio over HDMI for HD playback on HD televisions...the former drives two 21" displays, an Eizo GC210 and a 21" CINTique for retouching....
all play well with Vista 64 bit OS'es with the current drivers, but NVidia's hardware solution for audio works, I have not been able to get the ATI card to do so with the computer I'm trying that with...
..support forums seem to attract those who have problems rather than satisfied users, but I think sticking with name boards and cards seems to work...I personally like NVidia's driver software....
..you certainly need to decide which features you want/need and go from there...but IMHO an extra $100 will give you a longer life than the year I got from my original cards....0 -
If you are looking for rock solid stability from a motherboard check out Tyan and Supermicro. They both have "workstation" class boards which are used by professionals who need their computer to just work. Their boards don't offer over-clocking or other tweaks, just reliability. The prices are not that much more than the brands targeted at gamers and web surfers.
My day job is in the IT field, and I only use those two brands at work and home.0 -
[quote="Christopher" wrote:
If you are looking for rock solid stability from a motherboard check out Tyan and Supermicro. They both have "workstation" class boards which are used by professionals who need their computer to just work. Their boards don't offer over-clocking or other tweaks, just reliability. The prices are not that much more than the brands targeted at gamers and web surfers.
My day job is in the IT field, and I only use those two brands at work and home.
Great, will check them out, thank you.0 -
[quote="Daniel" wrote:
[quote="Christopher" wrote:
If you are looking for rock solid stability from a motherboard check out Tyan and Supermicro. They both have "workstation" class boards which are used by professionals who need their computer to just work. Their boards don't offer over-clocking or other tweaks, just reliability. The prices are not that much more than the brands targeted at gamers and web surfers.
My day job is in the IT field, and I only use those two brands at work and home.
Great, will check them out, thank you.
didn't find any locally, what about the asus p6t?
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[quote="Daniel" wrote:
didn't find any locally, what about the asus p6t?
any specific memory brand?
I order all my parts online, because nothing of quality is available locally to me.
ASUS boards seem to be OK, I don't personally use them, but have worked on machines with them and as long as you turn off auto-overclocking stuff in the BIOS they're pretty stable. From what I've seen their auto-tuning just keeps cranking the speed up until the machine crashes, and then backs it down. It tries to settle on the highest speed where the machine doesn't lock up. I'd rather just run my parts in spec rather than try to push everything to the limit.
I usually go with one of pieces of memory the MB manufacturer has tested the board with and recommends. (I don't think ASUS does that.) But I've had issues with just about every major RAM maker, especially when you get into the 2 and 4 GB per stick densities (run Memtest86+ from a boot CD before even installing the OS). Crucial has been the easiest to work with when I do get a problem stick.0 -
P6T/P6T deluxe looks like a decent board for i7 machines. I have used the other 2 mentioned , but not in the past few years. Asus has bee s a solid board.
As far as video ram, I have read that Photoshop is expected to use this memory in some processes, perhaps CS4 already does? I would look into how that applies to you if using CS4.0 -
It's a funny thing. I was just in the process of selecting a new motherboard to run a Q9650 when I purchase MaximumPC's Build the perfect PC, and first learned about the new Core i7.
I also found some reviews comparing the Intel DX58SO and the Asus P6T which won the competition. I figure I can rebuild one of my 4 computers with a P6T Deluxe, i7 - 3.2GHz, 6GB Corsair Dominator (3x2Gb) DDR3 1600, C: Drive + 2- WDCaviarBlack 500GB RAID 0 for about $1500
What kind of feed back would you fellas give me on my choices?
Paul caught-cha on another thread!!! Paul has been giving me a lot of counsel...
Eager for all your discussions...
Bill 😊0
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