UI colors
I didn't find any possibility to change the colors of the user interface (except the background of the pic-viewer). I'd prefer a black on grey interface for the knobs, sliders and texts. Is that possible?
Ys., G
Ys., G
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No it is not.
Unfortunately black is preffered among of most photographers as less disturbing colour, that why they chosen it.-1 -
TYVM. For longer work-sessions I find the negative-contrast white on black (text) too "heavy" and my eyes get "tired".
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Unfortunately other colours may add visual colour cast to images that`s why they are explicitly selected neutral schema, and more and more of software on mac are doing so. 0 -
Hello Andriy,
I think your reasoning is incomplete. The black interface is very class, very dark room but most of the painters working on the gray walls. There are several reasons for this... Goethe and his theory of colors, blah blah .... roughly what gray (see Cézanne's studio) is neutral to the eye, do not tire, etc ...
What is wrong to propose this option in the preferences?
A final reason for PhaseOne important: this lack prevents me to go from LR to C1Pro;) and I have no problem to view! Keep me informed very quickly! Thank you very much.1 -
[quote="Andriy.Okhrimets" wrote:
Unfortunately other colours may add visual colour cast to images that`s why they are explicitly selected neutral schema, and more and more of software on mac are doing so.
There is nothing neutral about the hideous Disney orange as the overall UI accent color, or the fully-saturated round-cornered squares used for seven of the eight Color Tags. These choices give the lie to any claims that the interface is designed to create the best environment for digital photo editing.
I agree 100% with your statement "other colours may add visual colour cast to images" (assuming by "colours" you mean hues). I disagree 100% with the assessment that the current "schema" is neutral. "Neutral, in color, is generally used to mean "unsaturated". In any place in the UI where the saturation is not 0, the color is as far from neutral as possible. And in almost all cases where the saturation is 0 (with the exception of the non-default choices for the Viewer background), the color luminance is pushed to one extreme or the other. In particular, black adds as strong a "luminance cast" to nearby observed colors as a fully saturated color patch adds a "hue cast" to nearby observed colors. Afaik (and indeed, IME) each is deleterious to any image processing workflow.
I am pretty sure this is widely understood, accepted, and backed by scientific research. The choices made for the C1P9 interface are surely _NOT_ made to create the best editing environment for users. The best editing environment is neutral in hue, moderate in luminance, legible without harsh contrast, and devoid of fully-saturated colors. Measured against this, C1P9 falls willfully short.
I welcome any counter-argument for anyone, and especially from anyone from Phase One who finds my assessment wrong.1 -
[quote="NNN635848199023139099" wrote:
I didn't find any possibility to change the colors of the user interface (except the background of the pic-viewer). I'd prefer a black on grey interface for the knobs, sliders and texts. Is that possible?
Ys., G
I didn't find such relief either; it would be welcome, useful, standard, and proper.
I did adjust as many things as I could find.
To wit:
Viewer background to pinstripe medium gray (listed here, even though you mention it).
Selected Variant Color to medium-dark medium-opaque unsaturated green.
Compare Variant Color to medium-dark medium-opaque unsaturated red.
Local Adjustment Mask Color to a medium-light medium-opaque unsaturated yellow.
Guides Color to a light medium-opaque unsaturated orange.
Focus Mask to a light medium-opaque unsaturated green.
Even with this "quieting" the UI remains a disaster for sensitive color editing for fine art printing (imho, obviously), mostly due to the extreme, un-natural, disquieting, misleading opaque black of everything but the Viewer background.
Newsflash: I do not print on black papers; I do not frame my prints with large deep black mats; I do not exhibit my work in black galleries; I do not sell any work to people who live in black houses.
My request to the UI designers of C1P9: Give us luminance-neutral gray panels and toolbars, leave the Disney-orange back on the embers on the far side of the Styx, and replace the electric candy color tags with something that is _indicative_ but not _exemplary_.1 -
[quote="Kirby Krieger" wrote:
My request to the UI designers of C1P9: Give us luminance-neutral gray panels and toolbars, leave the Disney-orange back on the embers on the far side of the Styx, and replace the electric candy color tags with something that is _indicative_ but not _exemplary_.
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I often find myself looking at an edited and processed picture with a different viewer/context and thinking: "mmm, a tad too dark", especially in B/W pics.
I have enlarged my proofer margins to get less black around the image, but that is a waste of my already not so large screen estate.
Cheers,
Peter.0 -
[quote="peter.f" wrote:
I often find myself looking at an edited and processed picture with a different viewer/context and thinking: "mmm, a tad too dark", especially in B/W pics.
The entire argument in nutshell.
I am astonished there is no hue-neutral saturation-neutral luminance-neutral "skin" for C1P9.
Fwiw, I have searched the program package for a color setting or the tile used for the background and found nothing.0 -
but where's Andriy .... 😉 0 -
I don't agree that the black UI is best - I prefer a lighter grey. I wish we could change the whole interface like we can have 4 choices in PS. 1 -
Hello Everybody,
So, on their www, impossible to find a contact "suggestions" 😉
My few posts on their FB remained unanswered,
Have you tips to be heard by PhaseOne ?!
Thanks a lot !0 -
I must agree. I find the all Black with light type hard to read. It is distracting and it hurts my eyes.I put up with it because I have no choice.
Choice would be good.1 -
Thanks a lot Westley. I just posted a message instantly.
Do the same!0
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