Printing in Capture One VS Lightroom

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  • Robert Farhi
    Hi,

    As far as I am concerned, I don't use the C1 printing module, as I find it not very handy : margins, layout and image settings are conflictual and difficult to manage. I use Photoshop printing module instead.

    An other issue I encountered is that, with my printer, the colors are not satisfactory when I ask C1 to manage the print (by filling in the color profile field with my printer profile), while they are correct when I ask C1 to let the printer manage the print. I don't have such an issue when I print using Photoshop, Affinity Photo, Lightroom, or even Preview.

    I have asked the support to improve the print module, but I am affraid I'll have to wait for long, as this improvement is not in their projects yet.

    Robert
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  • Michael
    Thanks Robert, what are you using to print?

    Michael
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  • Robert Farhi
    It's a small A3+ Canon printer (iP8750). I don't have any RIP available for this printer, unfortunately.
    And of course I have a calibrated dual monitor.
    Robert
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  • Michael
    Yes, I have a P10. Unfortunately Canon's print software only works with Adobe.
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  • Abbott Schindler
    I've also put in a suggestion to improve the Print panel, so far to no avail (same with a number of suggestions, including those that David Grover thought were good). C1 seems to have different priorities ☹️

    I've been printing to an Epson Stylus Pro 3880 for a number of years and, other than C1's clunky, counterintuitive settings pane, it works fine with C1 managing color. Of course I need to be sure to select both my printer and the appropriate paper profile from the drop-down menu, but after that all's well.

    C1 has the ability to soft proof, which can help you get the results you want. It sounds like your color profile may be off. If that's the case, you should be able to find C1 settings using soft proofing that give the results you want. Then save those (example: WB, various tint settings, sharpening) as a preset and select that preset when you're printing on the paper you made the preset for.

    I don't see differences with/without output sharpening, but I only print the equivalent of 30x50" prints (that's 17x22 of a cropped section of an EOS 5D Mark IV or 5DsR frame). I suspect that output sharpening may be more important with larger prints and/or lower-res images. Remember, too, that C1 is geared toward Phase One's very high-res cameras.

    One problem with C1 is that you can't save complete presets that include printer, cell size, margins and so on. Another problem is that if you have multiple printers setup on your Mac, C1 defaults to the first (or default) printer on your list, which in my case is not the 3880. There's no way to change this dumb behavior. So each time I launch C1 and want to print, I need to first go into the Print dialog and change the printer. You actually need to change both the printer and page size. Cumbersome.

    While I don't have LR, I have compared results from C1 to PS CS6/ACR and find C1's managed results to be much closer to what I see on the screen than PS is. In fact, both C1 and Affinity Photo do a better job of matching what I see on my monitors (calibrated NEC PA272) than does PS. But again, you need to be careful with your settings.
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  • Robert Farhi
    [quote="Nature Isme" wrote:

    C1 has the ability to soft proof, which can help you get the results you want. It sounds like your color profile may be off. If that's the case, you should be able to find C1 settings using soft proofing that give the results you want. Then save those (example: WB, various tint settings, sharpening) as a preset and select that preset when you're printing on the paper you made the preset for.
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    While I don't have LR, I have compared results from C1 to PS CS6/ACR and find C1's managed results to be much closer to what I see on the screen than PS is. In fact, both C1 and Affinity Photo do a better job of matching what I see on my monitors (calibrated NEC PA272) than does PS. But again, you need to be careful with your settings.


    Thanks !! I don't have any issue with the colors between my calibrated display and my prints when using PS or Affinity Photo, for instance. And I don't have any discrepancy between the soft proofing of my images between C1 and PS : they are stricly the same on my calibrated screens. But, while PS prints an image compliant with the soft-proof, it's not the same with C1, unless I ask C1 to let the printer manage the print.
    In other words, C1 doesn't give the same result, as far as colors are concerned, when the printing process is managed directly from C1 or by the printer (with the same printer profile, of course).
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  • OddS.
    [quote="Nature Isme" wrote:
    ...I've been printing to an Epson Stylus Pro 3880 for a number of years and, other than C1's clunky, counterintuitive settings pane


    May depend on what you have gotten used to. I like Qimage Ultimate (payware), but I occasionally also print via C1 recipes set up to send TIFF to (Open With) Epson's Print Layout (free) program.
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