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Local adjustment selection points problem

graham25
Testing ver.9 and I find that the coloured selection point is no longer sticky. ie. zoom in make selection, orange dot appears. Zoom out and dot stays in same location on screen so no longer relevant.
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  • graham25
    No one else seeing a problem?
    Perhaps I didn't make the problem clear.

    If for example I want to make a local area adjustment to the eyes area of a portrait I zoom in to make selection more accurate. I paint over the eyes and because I have selected to do so C1 puts an orange dot in the middle of the masked eyes area. I now zoom out to show whole image but the orange dot is no longer in the area of the eyes as it should be. Worked fine in ver.8 does not work in ver.9
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  • SFA
    I'm not sure about this one.

    I have to say I did not study V8 in detail on this and have not compared with V9 to see if anything has changed.

    However as I recall the dots are just markers to identify that there are active layers and advise whether the current layer (Orange dot) or some other layer (white dot) may be of interest.

    The position of the dot is not entirely important, one could argue. For example if I have a layer with several mask areas should I see several dots for that layer?

    Similarly if zoomed in to an image how is one to know that the image in general is subject to modifications by one or more mask areas on one or more layers when the central position of the masks (or the starting point from when they were drawn as seemed to me to be the case for V8) is not currently in view?

    One might argue that "If it's just an indicator" it should simply be a centred dot .... but then all layers would overlap their dots which would not make much sense.

    So whilst I can tend to agree that the way the concept presents is a little strange and perhaps even counter-intuitive in some ways it does deliver the information it is meant to convey PROVIDING one accepts that it is not meant to offer precise positional information, especially when zoomed in.

    My thoughts, for what they are worth.


    Grant
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  • RichardT
    It looks like a bug in V9 to me.

    In V8 as you zoom in and out the orange dot stays over the same item in the image.

    In V9 it stays at the same x,y coordinates in the viewer - which looks wrong.
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  • Robert Whetton
    Was using adjustment layers this afternoon, copy and pasted from 1 to another 3 images all very slightly different, went to move a layer and it kept moving the bottom layer instead. tried everything but even trying to move the 3rd layer, always moved the 1st layer instead. ended up deleting the layers and starting again fresh on each image :/
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  • SFA
    [quote="RichardT" wrote:
    It looks like a bug in V9 to me.

    In V8 as you zoom in and out the orange dot stays over the same item in the image.

    In V9 it stays at the same x,y coordinates in the viewer - which looks wrong.


    But if you zoom right in and the dot is off the screen its use as an indicator is lost.

    It's not really a location identifier since a layer may have multiple mask areas, although in a simple single mask area usage it may sort of help as a location identifier.

    Maybe some entirely different approach could be considered in the future - but what?


    Grant
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  • RichardT
    Grant, you say "It's not really a location identifier", however, in the V9 on-line help

    in the section on "Selection points" it says:

    A single Selection point will appear close to the first application of a brush mask in an adjustment layer or source point in a repair layer, regardless of whether it’s a series of brush strokes or a single stroke.


    However, in V9 when you zoom in/out the selection point does not maintain its position close to the first application of the brush mask. It is clear that the behaviour in V9 does not match the description in the help, whereas it does in V8.
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  • SFA
    [quote="RichardT" wrote:
    Grant, you say "It's not really a location identifier", however, in the V9 on-line help

    in the section on "Selection points" it says:

    A single Selection point will appear close to the first application of a brush mask in an adjustment layer or source point in a repair layer, regardless of whether it’s a series of brush strokes or a single stroke.


    However, in V9 when you zoom in/out the selection point does not maintain its position close to the first application of the brush mask. It is clear that the behaviour in V9 does not match the description in the help, whereas it does in V8.


    It doesn't really make much sense either way, frankly. (IMO)

    However, we can look forward to an official response to the Support Case(s) to see what is intended.


    Grant
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  • graham25
    [quote="RichardT" wrote:
    It looks like a bug in V9 to me.

    In V8 as you zoom in and out the orange dot stays over the same item in the image.

    In V9 it stays at the same x,y coordinates in the viewer - which looks wrong.


    Thanks Richard T you put it so much better than me 😉

    I was beginning to think I was the only one with the problem.

    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    The position of the dot is not entirely important, one could argue. For example if I have a layer with several mask areas should I see several dots for that layer?


    I'll have to disagree with you on this one SFA but will concur that having multiple dots on every layer would be confusing especially if there were 101 and the dog subject was a Poodle. 😉
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  • SFA
    [quote="graham25" wrote:
    .... having multiple dots on every layer would be confusing especially if there were 101 and the dog subject was a Poodle. 😉



    Aargh!

    Severe cognitive disconnect!

    In fact 2 disconnects if you got to 101 spots!


    Grant
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