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Using "Edit With ..." and Multiple Variants

Eric Valk
I'm trying to use the C1's "Edit With ..." command to send multiple variants (3,5,7) to another application for merging.

Has anyone been able to make this work with any 3rd party application?
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  • cdc
    Yes, this works fine with photoshop.

    What is your 3rd party software?
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  • Eric Valk
    [quote="cdc" wrote:
    Yes, this works fine with photoshop.

    What is your 3rd party software?

    I'm trying to setup a workflow where I can process images taken as a bracket as an HDR merge.

    So far I've tried Nik HDR Efex2, Photomatix, Affinity and Macphun Aurora.

    If I execute C1's "Open with..." and a set of selected images, all these apps receive all the images. However Affinity just opens each image, it can't do a merge. With "Open with...", getting the merged image back into the same C1 collecttion with the same Metadata requires a lot of manual steps. And I have many sets of images waiting for HDR merge.

    If I execute "Edit With ...", then getting the processed result back into C1 is taken care of.
    However the image transfer to the third party application doesn't work:
    • Affinity opens each image, it can't do a merge
    • HDR Efex2 crashes
    • Photomatix just opens the last image
    • Aurora just opens the last image


    If I get enough data to understand why "Edit with.." is not be working then I can open a support ticket with C1 or the other vendor.
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  • Ken Bates
    I think it may depend on the target application. Using Helicon Focus (a focus stacking app), I can do an "Open with..." with multiple images selected, and all raw files are passed across to Helicon. When I finish doing the stacking of the raw files in Helicon, save the resulting tiff file to the default location, and return to Capture One, that saved tiff file is now in the same collection that I started with.

    This was an added feature that was advertised in an update (9.2?), so the real question is whether the functionality to accept multiple inputs and return a single output was added to Capture One, Helicon Focus, or both. Given that it seems to only work in the two applications that PhaseOne has specifically stated, I suspect that it's a two-way communication, and that unless the app has code specific for multiple input files passed on opening, it won't work (as you have observed). Somewhat of a shame for things such as Aurora (HDR) and Affinity/Photomatix (panos), since it take a lot of manual intervention to get the desired result.

    - Ken
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  • Eric Valk
    [quote="macbates" wrote:
    I think it may depend on the target application. Using Helicon Focus (a focus stacking app), I can do an "Open with..." with multiple images selected, and all raw files are passed across to Helicon. When I finish doing the stacking of the raw files in Helicon, save the resulting tiff file to the default location, and return to Capture One, that saved tiff file is now in the same collection that I started with.

    Very Interesting!! What is that default location??



    This was an added feature that was advertised in an update (9.2?), so the real question is whether the functionality to accept multiple inputs and return a single output was added to Capture One, Helicon Focus, or both. Given that it seems to only work in the two applications that PhaseOne has specifically stated, I suspect that it's a two-way communication, and that unless the app has code specific for multiple input files passed on opening, it won't work (as you have observed). Somewhat of a shame for things such as Aurora (HDR) and Affinity/Photomatix (panos), since it take a lot of manual intervention to get the desired result.

    - Ken
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  • cdc
    I missed that you wanted that you wanted all of the variants opened in one file. Photoshop opens each file individually as well.
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  • Ken Bates
    In HeliconFocus, the default save location is the location where all the source files are stored, so it works out well. I'm not sure if HF passes the saved location back to Capture One (I suspect not), but saving the output file in the same location as the input files means C1 automatically sees the processed output.

    Some programs, such as Aurora, default to an internal save format, so you have to manually export the file to get a tiff output. If I recall, Aurora also defaults the saved location to wherever the last export was, not the same directory as the source files. As a result you have to do a lot of manual intervention (export, choose file options, navigate to the source file directory, etc), which is a bit of a pain. That's in addition to having to launch Aurora and find the files to process without the help of C1, of course.

    - Ken
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