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MacBook Pro for Capture One 7 Pro

RadimV
I'm considering to sell my MacBook Pro in order to buy a new one. The reason is that after installing trial version of Capture One 7, on my laptop, trying on/off OpenGL setting according tips, but it is not working smoothly as I would expected.

My laptop configuration MacBook Pro 15-inch, late 2011, Procesor 2,2 GHz Intel Core i7, Paměť 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3, Grafika AMD Radeon HD 6750M 512 MB, Software OS X 10.9.1 (13B42), monitor 15 palců (1680 x 1050), SSD 256 GB, and the second harddisk 750 GB.
I would like to buy MacBook Pro 15" Retina, Intel Core i7 2.3GHz Quad Core Haswell, Retina 2880x1800, RAM DDR3 16GB, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, Intel Iris Pro Graphics, SSD 512GB, WiFi 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.0.

I'm not quite sure if this upgrade will be big improvement. According videocardbenchmark.net my current video card has cca. 1240 point G3D, a new NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M is not so big improvement = 1320 point G3D.

I would appreciate if someone has experience with this configuration, or can provide comments on my consideration.
Thanks
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  • RadimV
    I dont understand my user name, it should be RadimV
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  • MidWestTech
    A few questions on your current laptop:

    [quote="NN635046403636763948UL" wrote:
    SSD 256 GB


    Was your SSD installed by you or did it come in the machine? Is it a SATA 2 or SATA 3 drive? Apple had a nasty habit of overcharging people for SATA2 drives installed in machines that could use SATA3 and charging the SATA3 price.

    [quote="NN635046403636763948UL" wrote:
    the second harddisk 750 GB


    Are you shooting to this disk? What speed is it? If you are shooting to it, would you consider upgrade to a SSD?

    [quote="NN635046403636763948UL" wrote:
    8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3


    Max on your current laptop is 16GB, would you consider upgrading?

    What I like about the model you have:

    The ability to run 2 drives

    the monitor on the laptop itself is not a huge resource suck for the video card

    native firewire 800 connectivity (might be a + based on what camera or other peripherals you use)

    What I like about the potential Retina upgrade:

    Some of the upgrades you are looking at for your current machine to max it out are baked in already (RAM)

    I see the GT750M listed at 1537 G3D, I would consider that something of an improvement, especially considering that the model you mention also has the Intel Iris Pro handling some of the work, according to videocardbenchmark.net, that is good for another 991 G3D. Please keep in mind that the retina screen is a considerably harder to drive display, all that extra resolution has to come at some cost.

    thinner, lighter, more thunderbolt ports, USB3, etc.

    Let me know a little more about your current machine's specs (see questions above) and we can talk cost/benefit on the upgrade vs upgrades to your current machine.
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  • RadimV
    Thanks,

    SSD - OCZ Vertex 3, SATA III 6 Gbps
    authorized Apple store exchanged an optical drive with SSD disk as a boot disk.

    Capture One is on the SSD disk, my photos as well.

    Radim
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  • MidWestTech
    One option you have it to keep running C1Pro on the SSD and shoot to the other disk. This is how my main laptop is set up, I am running a late 2011 17". I have SSDs in both slots. The system runs on one and the images are shot to the other, which is set us to ignore permissions. The opportunity to keep running off of a fast SSD and shooting to another fast SSD is a key advantage of keeping the system you have now.

    What camera are you mainly shooting?
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  • RadimV
    One comment, in case of Capture One Pro 7, when I start to make some photo adjustments, my laptop is starting to get overheating, this never happened with Capture One 6, but this app unfortunately doesn't support my new Leica M 240, that's main reason of my upgrade. My previous camera was M9.

    At the moment, I've tried to work with photos on second hard disk, but the result is the same. It's really a pity, I am going to buy a new laptop, expensive, especially for photo post-processing - only one software I need, nothing more ...
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  • MidWestTech
    [quote="NN635046403636763948UL" wrote:
    my laptop is starting to get overheating


    This issue has been discussed at great length on other posts on this forum, you might want to do a little looking to see if you can find a good recommendation.

    I know that when I am adjusting and processing, at times, the fan can go into overdrive and the laptop sounds like it is going to take off like a helicopter. I have not however had any issues with true overheating. Unless I am on location and it is sitting on a Magliner, my laptop spends most of its time on a Griffin stand which allows air to get under it and keeps it fairly cool.
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  • RadimV
    I understand, but my the requirement was what are hardware requirements to use Capture One 7 for DNG post-processing regarding M 240. M9 and Capture One 6 worked without problems. Cap. One 7 , which I have to use for M 240 DNG file, has much more performance requirements, and as I wrote,I need a laptop, not a desktop. I don't care of price, I just need to know what are hardware requirements for C. One 7. This web site , I mean product requirements, provide me just recommendation in term of hardware. Honestly, I like Capture One .. but
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  • paintbox
    Not trying to be a Negative Nancy, but here's my thoughts:

    I just upgraded from a Mac Mini i7 16gb to a 6core 3.33Ghz Mac Pro (2012 model) with a 7950 video card, SSD and 24 GB Ram. In all of my programs, C1 showed the least improvement. All other programs showed a significant improvement. Maybe not 3k worth, but an improvement.

    IMO, you are probably wasting your money. I would just buy a really nice 30" monitor and pocket the rest.
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  • LSdigi.com
    Personally I'd recommend that you should stick with your current machine for a little while longer, as the previous person has mentioned you have the ability to have 2x drives inside and the new Retina models have close to zero upgrade ability (or a chance to fix it yourself if things go wrong), FW800 ports etc... I don't really see the Retina as a "Pro" machine.

    You should definitely invest in 16GB RAM, perhaps have 2x SSD's - one for operating system and another for shooting. Then little things like keeping it empty and regular maintenance does it wonders, extra tweaks like optimizing Preview images to the correct resolution, disabling auto lens correct if you need images rendered quicker. OpenCL "auto" option gives a nice boost in performance.
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  • RadimV
    I'm not quite sure, when I open an image in C1 to process it, a fun starts to be so noisy as a helicopter and Mac is overheating. I think that a bottleneck is the graphic card.
    I read an article "Speedup Image Processing with OpenCL" from Lionel Kuhlmann, in the discussion he recommended to use at least 1GB graphic card for 16MB image processing. I need to process 24BM images and my Mac has 512MB card only.
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  • paintbox
    I just configured your new laptop on Macs website. For that kinda money, you are easily in the upper iMac zone and close to Mac Pro in terms of money.
    You could keep your Macbook for Capture in the field and a desktop for editing. C1 allows two separate computers on one license, probably for this very reason.
    A desktop would be much more capable for photo work. You could just get a refurb 2012 and have all kinds of storage as well.
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  • Mark701
    I have the same MBP as you have (2.2 Samsung 840 SSD 16 g mem and 1/2 gig video ram), and am happy with V 6.45, and it works GREAT. Does not do well with V 7 at all (although I haven't tried 7.2…….prob same thing though)

    Have you thought about trying 6.45 and saving your money and having a life? OS 10.8.5 and CO 6.45 is ROCK solid……….
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  • RadimV
    As I know C1 6.x doesn't support Leica M 240 RAW files, neither Sony RX100 II.
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  • PhaseoneUser30154
    Good enough excuse to dump your current set up for a Retina. FWIW I have the Air Retina (13") with i7 and 8G RAM. It works great but does trip the fan if you actually want to do anything in C1

    OTOH, while I love C1 (v.7)/Media Pro for my Canon and Sony files, it sucks for my 240 files. A MUCH better solution (and cheaper) is t pick up LR 5.X for your Leica. It does a very pretty job right out of the box and seems to stress the processor far less. So I have both.

    But listen carefully… do not, under any circumstances open LR and C1 simultaneously! You are in Big Crash territory! Like Force Quit and restart territory.

    I have a blown and supercharged Mac Pro at home and it takes time with C1 too. The program is just not easy on the processor, any processor. LR and DxO 9 (also fun for 240 files) are just smoother.

    A "trick" I have learned is that if you run C1 in Sessions it is far more stable and a bit (not a lot, but a bit) faster. It's the stability that counts for me. Actually, Media Pro is quite stable, C1 v.7.X not so much...
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  • RadimV
    In my opinion, the C1 has much better RAW output than LR5. As a C1 has a diagnostic function providing feedback to phaseOne, I would appreciate if they could provide some feedback as well, informing about bottlenecks like the graphic card or RAM etc., providing recommendation for you hardware.
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