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warning for using C1 10 demo with your old C1 work

CAPTURE NIKON DPRO1
this is a warning for user trying the C1 10 Demo with C1 9 old session catalog 💡
you will get your old work damaged ! and spending allot time to fix it back.

i don't care if this is a bug or a normally Software behaves.
Don't TEST C1 10 SESSION with your OLD one !

only TEST IT on a clean place away from your old DB Workflow.

1. make new C1 10 session
2. import new picture to it
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  • John Doe
    All serious users backup their data before updating their software.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON DPRO1
    All serious users backup their data before updating their software.

    yes exactly thanks for tipp 😎
    tray to show your C1 10 your old sessions folder on a external backup drive, usb, HD, or camera drive as you like, bee sure to re backup them all bevor , i call this in technical language " double redundant".
    2. import new picture to it

    good luck serious users !

    its just a warranty for you.. nothing bad ..
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  • Peter Grüner
    Hi Capture Nikon D700,

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    this is a warning for user trying the C1 10 Demo with C1 9 old session catalog 💡
    you will get your old work damaged ! and spending allot time to fix it back.


    It is well known and mentioned quite frequently that going from one major release to the next one your sessions and catalogs needs to be upgraded. Capture One is not damaging your old work.

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    i don't care if this is a bug or a normally Software behaves.
    Don't TEST C1 10 SESSION with your OLD one !


    If you don't care it is not Capture One's fault and this is a quite common approach to maintain stability and usability.

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    tonly TEST IT on a clean place away from your old DB Workflow.

    Yes, if you plan not to upgrade right away than your way is correct.

    Peter

    1. make new C1 10 session
    2. import new picture to it
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  • HansB
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    this is a warning for user trying the C1 10 Demo with C1 9 old session catalog 💡
    ...

    Session? Catalog? Or both?

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    Don't TEST C1 10 SESSION with your OLD one !
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    So it's about sessions. What's the problem? Make a copy and open the copy in v10.

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    you will get your old work damaged !
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    Nothing damaged here.

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    and spending allot time to fix it back.
    ...

    Just replace the session database with the backup v10 created during upgrading.
    Sure, this will not undo any file moving, deleting, importing...
    But if it's just a copy of the original session, delete this testing session.



    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:

    All serious users backup their data before updating their software.

    yes exactly thanks for tipp 😎
    ...

    It doesn't make sense (to me) to test all the features I could possibly use on my actual work or something I finished and want to keep. So I would never use anything but a copy to test a new software, version, or dot version.



    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    show your C1 10 your old sessions folder on a external backup drive, usb, HD, or camera drive
    ...

    Done.

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    2. import new picture to it

    ...

    Done.

    Should I see something special?


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    you will get your old work damaged ! and spending allot time to fix it back.

    User error - pure and simple.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON DPRO1
    hallo users,
    i am testing C1 10 with C1 9 sessions on the same machine,
    the problem i think is inside my capture folders, not in the .cosessiondb
    normally i made a new session folder in C1 10 Demo. i point it to a old session folder,
    i played around on some pictures then i de installed it from my mac.
    i never changed the Phase one engine from 9 to 10. i delate the new c1 10 session and
    opened the old Session.cosessiondb backe with C1 9,
    way damaged because i couldn't show my original Image state back and the croup function is also blocked.
    this happens only with images that i edited inside 10 before..
    don't matter ...i will keep using C1 9.
    i suggest every one should thing how to use this PRO software as he like. with no error.
    i thing there are some kind confusing when working with Sessions or catalog bei PHASE ONE, i thought that all setting stuff been normally saved only inside the .cosessiondb and not outside " CAPTURE FOLDER" but .. this is only my thoughts..

    thanks guys..
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  • John Doe
    Didn't understand a single word, sorry.
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  • paintbox
    😂
    [quote="John Doe" wrote:
    Didn't understand a single word, sorry.
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  • HansB
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    i thought that all setting stuff been normally saved only inside the .cosessiondb and not outside " CAPTURE FOLDER"
    ...

    All setting stuff? In a session workflow,
    + session data and settings are stored in the <name>.cosessiondb
    + image adjustments, masks, LCCs are stored as sidecar information
    That's how CO works in sessions.

    Outside 'Capture Folder'?
    If the images are in the "Capture Folder', sidecar information is in there, too.

    BTW, I upgraded a CO9 session, edited some images in v10, replaced the cosessiondb with it's backup. Opened with v9 again, and everything is as if I never upgraded. There's just a new Settings100 subfolder for the sidecars.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • NNN637254559064198001
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    this is a warning for user trying the C1 10 Demo with C1 9 old session catalog 💡
    you will get your old work damaged ! and spending allot time to fix it back.

    i don't care if this is a bug or a normally Software behaves.
    Don't TEST C1 10 SESSION with your OLD one !

    only TEST IT on a clean place away from your old DB Workflow.

    1. make new C1 10 session
    2. import new picture to it


    Too late for me - I now have a useless paid license for Pro 9.3 that I can no longer open and use (due to the Pro 10 trial needing to "upgrade" my catalog), and, a massive and mysterious memory draw coming from Pro 10 that makes that trial program freeze. Tech Support is trying to help but I am currently at a standstill, and looking for a new software company. This is the second time I have had a major catalog corruption and other Capture One issues. I may be forced to walk away and find a competing RAW processing software, unfortunately. And I used to be such a fan and advocate for Capture One - but not any longer.
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  • John Doe
    Well you can still revert to your catalog backup, can't you?
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  • NNN637254559064198001
    [quote="John Doe" wrote:
    Well you can still revert to your catalog backup, can't you?


    \No, not so far, as the "instructions" that tech support sent to me aren't clear enough for my old mind to understand. I have tried to follow the recovery instructions for my old image catalog, but so far no luck. So, Pro 9.3 will not open for me at all, and Pro 10 trial freezes and drains 99% of my computer's memory.
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