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Media Pro SE

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Media Pro 2.0 is coming !!! 😄

Media Pro SE (Second Edition)
Media Pro SE is a service pack release providing additional OS support and bug fixes over
Media Pro 1.5. It is a payable update from Media Pro 1.5 and prior.
Improvements
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Supports rendering of Capture One adjustments up to 9.1
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Support for OSX 10.11
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Support for Windows 10 (64bit)
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Standard key increased +1 to 3 activations
Bug fixes for Windows
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Fixed sporadic problem with auxiliary file handling
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Fix for potential crash while importing MS Office documents
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Recent Catalogs menu now sorted by modification date
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Fixed ability to reliably drag and drop from Capture One to rebuild MP items
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Improved licensing UI to prevent country-based activation problems.
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“Date Finder†section of Organize pane now displays localized day/month names
properly
Bug fixes for Mac
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Fixed code signing for newer OS X releases.
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Auto Update folders show green on newer OS X releases.
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Fixed script “Copy from items with Same Nameâ€
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“Date Finder†section of Organize pane now displays localized day/month names
properly
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  • Thies
    Well, 'SE' seems to be another way to say 1.5.2 non-free...
    If anyone figures out, how to update the previews to contain CO9 edits, please share.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    After Long time waiting for Bug fix now
    its not FREE !
    HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !
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  • NN636274225804497206UL
    I would be interested in SE if someone could explain how to make it work with CO9.

    1) can I import CO9 catalogs? I couldn't find a way so I went into CO9 and tried "Create Media Pro Catalog with All images" in hopes that the resulting catalog could be maintained in Media Pro SE. However, the output doesn't seem to give me anything but a small subset of images no matter what I do. It also never prompted for location of the new MP catalog being created which I found strange.

    2) As Thies asked, can anyone show how to get CO9 edits to show up in the catalog? Or in essence, can MP be configured to show previews exactly as they exist after editing in C09? Please don't tell me I have to process to TIFF/JPG to do that.

    3)Open with. If right-click an image in MP SE and select "open with" , clicking on CO9, it just opens up the "import images" dialog in CO9. (Note: C09 was open and was showing a CO9 catalog). I'm hoping the answer is not "just process RAW file to TIFF/JPG".

    It's very possible I'm missing some information on MP and CO9 integration, if so please share a link. PhaseOne.com marketing info says "Using Capture One's professional image rendering engine and industry-standard metadata, Media Pro SE allows for seamless integration with your current workflow." Well my current workflow is to use CO9 as my editor, though I don't want to have to convert all my files to TIFF in order to have the edits appear in MP.

    It also says "Open all those files without worry. Media Pro SE supports all the file formats you need, and probably a few that you don't. Evaluate and compare high quality raw images Instantly magnify images and evaluate your raw images with correct colors, in extreme detail and including adjustments using Capture One’s professional image rendering engine." Now that I read that carefully, I guess using Capture One's 'engine' does not equate to actually using Capture One? in any meaningful way?
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  • Jim MSP
    This lack of integration is one of the reasons I moved on from CO7 and MP.
    I saw the announcement - and thought MP 2.0 is here. Wrong !
    And the minor fixes are now charged for. Phase One still doesn't get it.

    CO9 makes me want to come back - but I need a working integrated version of MP.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    i am traing it today
    as far i now old version media pro works
    only with c1 in session mode ❗️
    this could bee the same issue in this nice version
    it should bee only a update for fixig old bugs
    that we are waiting for it long time ago.

    update 1.5.1 to 1.5.2 phase one !

    thank you !
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  • Luke Miller
    I've used Lightroom and Capture One for some time. More and more I find I prefer Capture One for a variety of reasons, performance being a major one (Lightroom is very slow these days with large files). I stay with Lightroom because I need a full featured catalog, so I was excited to see the release of Media Pro SE. I tried the earlier releases and found they were not capable of replacing the Lightroom catalog function in my use. So I downloaded the Media Pro SE Trial. Since I use Capture One 9 in catalog mode I hoped Media Pro would allow me to import my Capture One catalog. Nope - (OK I had to try, but did not really expect it to work), so then I imported a folder of my images and tried to open one in Capture One. Nope - I was told that Capture One must be in sessions mode in order to open the image.

    So I'm assuming that if I want to use Media Pro SE and preserve the edits I've already made to the images in my Capture One catalogs I have to export all the images to sessions and then import those images to a Media Pro catalog. Presumably my edits will come in with them. While I would love to use Media Pro to replace my Lightroom catalog and make Capture One my primary image processor, it just seems to be more effort than I am willing to take on. But perhaps I am missing something.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
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    Supports rendering of Capture One adjustments up to 9.1

    OHHHH ! i don't get it works with C1 8 ☹️ but way Phase one ! i still like to use the C1 8
    this look like a force for baying C1 9. i am really disappointing.
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  • RobiWan
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
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    Supports rendering of Capture One adjustments up to 9.1

    OHHHH ! i don't get it works with C1 8 ☹️ but way Phase one ! i still like to use the C1 8
    this look like a force for baying C1 9. i am really disappointing.


    Please move on - CAPTURE NIKON D700 - or try first out.

    Extra for you - "https://translate.google.de/#en/de/Supports%20rendering%20of%20Capture%20One%20adjustments%20up%20to%209.1"

    "Unterstützt Rendering / Anpassungen von Capture One bis zu version 9,1"
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  • CAPTURE NIKON DPRO1
    Supports rendering of Capture One adjustments up to 9.1

    up to bis auf i get it understand .
    but don't get it work on my Mac ... the changes from C1 8 are not showing in Media Pro. SE
    i really love your Software ..

    can we get special offer for upgrading C1 9 + Media Pro SE

    thanks
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    don't get it works i don't now way
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  • Permanently deleted user
    The information for MP SE on the website under "Image Editing" states:

    "Edit your raw images in Capture One and all adjustments, metadata, ratings, and tags are automatically updated in Media Pro SE."

    I have run a quick test. The edits for Catalogs do not get transferred, only for Sessions! This is very disappointing and must be corrected.
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  • RobiWan
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    Supports rendering of Capture One adjustments up to 9.1

    up to bis auf i get it understand .
    but don't get it work on my Mac ... the changes from C1 8 are not showing in Media Pro. SE
    i really love your Software ..


    can you please describe your procedure?

    [quote="NN247612UL" wrote:
    The information for MP SE on the website under "Image Editing" states:

    "Edit your raw images in Capture One and all adjustments, metadata, ratings, and tags are automatically updated in Media Pro SE."

    I have run a quick test. The edits do for Catalogs do not get transferred, only for Sessions! This is very disappointing and must be corrected.


    And is 100% correct - catalog NEED always import and that is the Ground why you have to use Sessions. Bad is - Phase One have describe it better.
    Catalog CAN move Images into catalog and then? Then is not possible to access then from MP.

    It's not a BUG, and it's not a Feature. It's normal procedure.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    can you please describe your procedure?

    I work in session and have C1 8 set it to MP SE but
    i don't get the adjustment showing in Media Pro SE

    the next issue ... Catalog or session
    i remember a tricky way how to open Catalog in Media Pro
    Tray if you get a result

    1. open a new Catalog in MP
    2. go to finder and then to C1 Catalog folder
    3. Right klick one Catalog folder select show content
    4. drag the coco.db or Original folder to MP

    Media Pro will open the files
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  • paintbox
    This version, like the last, isn't color managed, which makes it just as useless as the last version.

    My reds are still neon.

    How can I send samples of my work to potential clients, when the colors are completely wrong?

    Well at least I get to vote with my wallet now.

    Sorry guys but without color management, a catalog is pointless.
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  • RobiWan
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:
    can you please describe your procedure?

    I work in session and have C1 8 set it to MP SE but
    i don't get the adjustment showing in Media Pro SE


    I can try it out letter or you can try if this work for you with C1 V9.
    I think do you have any problem with your settings or procedure.

    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:

    the next issue ... Catalog or session


    Why do you think its a issue? All catalog Software need a import Files. Some of "right" DAM software like MP don#t have a container in which the files can be moved. By Capture One is this possible and after that are the files inaccessible for another programs.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    Why do you think its a issue?

    yes absoultly right , but
    Capture One have tow gread Workflow direcktions SESSION and KATALOG this make us more confussing when schearing
    Workflows with authours Apps. Like Media Pro from Phase One .
    Lightroom do the same ! Apple also .. ofcoures there is more abilities in C1 to go around like the
    Edit with ore open with .Featurs
    BUT i thing most peopel want a gread Intilegent BROWSE Build inside !
    Media Pro is gread DAM But way not getting it 100 % works with C1 ?
    Most users here in Forum are getting disapointing, for
    1. Price
    2. Time for Upgrade
    3. Solutions " compatibility"
    Phase One Theam are dowing gerad job they working On and showing us best solution V7 , V8 and now V9 ..
    and i was verry happey when i heard the anouncment for MP SE, .
    please look back agin for some compatibilitys issus that works with V 7 , V8 and V9 and send us please a Update .... gread when its for free.. or not !

    thank you guyes.
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  • RobiWan
    [quote="CAPTURE NIKON D700" wrote:

    please look back agin for some compatibilitys issus that works with V 7 , V8 and V9 and send us please a Update .... gread when its for free.. or not !


    Bad news to you, It work here with 9.0.3 and 8.3.4 without any issues.
    I think you're doing simple life itself heavy and then do not come on. But in the end trying to blame always giving to others.
    Sorry if I can, I tray others to help, I know MP or C1 have some bad BUGS - you and others (me to) can:
    - switch to another software
    - try to make a work around

    or I think bad option
    - crying and screaming that everything is just bad

    And MP is a DAM Software "old school" without many features photographers want/need.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    if you dont belongs to phase one team
    thanks for your help anyway
    i thing the athours got it understand
    your comment very well in this fourm
    to inform you i have the v 8.3....bla bla
    and dont works .. dont cray ... look way
    we are the investment for nice software not your comments
    high nose dont find there way well .


    athours user should give you there satisfaction
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  • RobiWan
    I asked you how you do it. That you have not answered.
    So if you have no idea how to use the software ......

    Bye bye you Spammer - I hope forever
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
    This version, like the last, isn't color managed, which makes it just as useless as the last version.

    My reds are still neon.


    By color management are you referring to honoring color profiles or something else? Does the problem happen with all files or only files edited in Capture One? I don't notice any issues with neon reds or over-saturation, so perhaps I'm blissfully unaware or my workflow is different (e.g., I don't use C1).
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    unbelievable !
    Media Pro SE now asking me for downloading a New Version 2.0.0.147
    after installing it , keep asking me agin and agin .. i am still Testing Demo.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    This is my Disappointment when working with this nice Software.

    1. CAPTURE ONE DONT SEND IMAGE CHANGES TO MP AUTOMATICALLY there is no setting that i found since years !
    2. MEDIA PRO DONT SEND METADATEN,KEYWORDS etc.. TO CAPTURE ONE AUTOMATICALLY there is no setting that i found since years! you have to use all time the short key CMD+E , how need this workflow can bay it !
    i was hopping this will bee changed for us .. but its look like the Old version changed the Name to SE.
    moor information see the old Videos from Phase One.

    my bee this way people thinking way not geting there images showed in Media Pro.
    because this is a special software you have to work for it.

    the authors asking way no update for folder content every min, 5 min i thing you have to get a button build in Photoshop called send changes to Media Pro.

    sorry for my disappointment
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  • Robert Edwards
    No thanks Phase One. Media Pro 1.5 works OK for me and I'm not willing to pay for bug fixes.

    As many here know Media Pro has a long history in Digital Asset Management for photographers and other creative professionals. Beginning in the 1990s as iView MediaPro from a small startup in the UK it was acquired by Microsoft (along with the senior engineers) in 2007 and rebranded Expression Media. Several new features were added and major bugs squashed but effectively it was the same as the original iView.

    Meanwhile Adobe was caught off guard with Apple’s disruptive little application called Aperture. One app that does it all. Lightroom was rushed to market and at the time was one of the few applications released as a public beta by Adobe (purely for marketing). Like it or hate it, Lightroom took the lead and today remains the most popular software for keen amateur and professional photographers.

    When Microsoft realised photography isn’t their thing they sold Expression Media. Adobe weren't interested but Phase One were and grabbed Expression Media, rebranding it (again) this time to Media Pro. Since the demise of Apple Aperture, Capture One is the main rival to Adobe Camera Raw and Lightroom. To compete with Lightroom, Phase One needed to add cataloguing to Capture One and that was through Expression Media.

    The key difference with The Phase One acquisition is the engineers did not go with the software like they did with Microsoft. Those folk knew not only how to code software but had decades of knowledge in DAM and have all but disappeared, along with their talents. Adobe and Phase One continue to stumble on image collection management that iView solved 10 years ago.

    Now many people say Lightroom is slow. Todays 24MP, 36MP and 50MP cameras make all software feel slower. Capture One and Media Pro both "feel" as slow as Lightroom. Ironically Media Pro works fastest when using it with an Adobe DNG workflow! DNGs render 3-4 times faster than the native raw file. But for me it's about the same as Lightroom or Capture One.

    Today I use Media Pro only to create quick, disposable catalogs for specific tasks like file management and could do it with iView MediaPro 3.1.3...
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  • w-mfrog
    [quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
    Sorry guys but without color management, a catalog is pointless.


    Agree the shockingly bad color representation in Media Pro defeats the whole purpose of favoring Capture One in the first place! Greatly disappointed.
    Would be happy to learn I've missed a setting somewhere, but sounds like i I did not.
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  • Willy Knuever
    Jimmy D Upstein wrote:

    "My reds are still neon."

    I use a RGB calibrated Eizo CG monitor and I see colours very well. Medical proved.
    With several RAW-converters: CO 9.2, DxO Optics Pro 11, Canon DPP 4.3 and LR 5.7 I see no difference in displaying the results in Media Pro 1.5/SE, Canon ZoomBrowser and Canon ImageBrowser.
    The colours of DxO Optics Pro 11 and Canon DPP 4.3 are almost the same, CO 9.2 is somewhat warmer (camera Canon 5D Mark III). Only LR is an exception. In the meantime I have removed he program LR because the colours are not real. Red is glowing 'neon".

    I think it is Lightroom not doing the job.

    Kind regards,
    Willy
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  • paintbox
    [quote="syncrasy" wrote:
    [quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
    This version, like the last, isn't color managed, which makes it just as useless as the last version.

    My reds are still neon.


    By color management are you referring to honoring color profiles or something else? Does the problem happen with all files or only files edited in Capture One? I don't notice any issues with neon reds or over-saturation, so perhaps I'm blissfully unaware or my workflow is different (e.g., I don't use C1).


    Not the profiles, as I rarely use anything other than Camera profile,Prophoto, or AdobeRGB.

    I use C1,PSCC,and LRCC for the most part.

    I believe it is't honoring my monitor profile.Thats just a guess though.
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  • paintbox
    [quote="NN383" wrote:
    Jimmy D Upstein wrote:

    "My reds are still neon."

    I use a RGB calibrated Eizo CG monitor and I see colours very well. Medical proved.
    With several RAW-converters: CO 9.2, DxO Optics Pro 11, Canon DPP 4.3 and LR 5.7 I see no difference in displaying the results in Media Pro 1.5/SE, Canon ZoomBrowser and Canon ImageBrowser.
    The colours of DxO Optics Pro 11 and Canon DPP 4.3 are almost the same, CO 9.2 is somewhat warmer (camera Canon 5D Mark III). Only LR is an exception. In the meantime I have removed he program LR because the colours are not real. Red is glowing 'neon".

    I think it is Lightroom not doing the job.

    Kind regards,
    Willy


    I'm glad you are getting good results.
    I'm using a NEC PA271W which isn't any slouch. Its calibrated with the Lacie Blue Eye and Spectroview software. It usually calibrates well below 1de.
    All other softwares give accurate rendition.
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  • paintbox
    [quote="w-mfrog" wrote:
    [quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
    Sorry guys but without color management, a catalog is pointless.


    Agree the shockingly bad color representation in Media Pro defeats the whole purpose of favoring Capture One in the first place! Greatly disappointed.
    Would be happy to learn I've missed a setting somewhere, but sounds like i I did not.


    Sorry you are having the same issues, but happy that I'm not alone.
    I have tried many settings and nothing changes.
    The weird thing is, the thumbnails will sometimes look perfect, but once viewed at 100% the colors change once it redraws itself.
    I opened a support case once before and they couldn't figure it out. I was told that MP has "limited" color management, whatever that means. Then they simply closed the case.
    My suspicion is that MP fails to apply my calibrated monitor profile correctly.
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  • Emile Gregoire
    Jimmy, I've had problems with different software in the past because I made v4 icc-profiles when calibrating. Since I switched back to v2 profiles, my problems are gone. You might want to check that, to see if it changes anything. Don't know the calibration software you use but e.g. Coloreyes Display Pro and basICColor can make both versions.
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  • paintbox
    [quote="Emile1" wrote:
    Jimmy, I've had problems with different software in the past because I made v4 icc-profiles when calibrating. Since I switched back to v2 profiles, my problems are gone. You might want to check that, to see if it changes anything. Don't know the calibration software you use but e.g. Coloreyes Display Pro and basICColor can make both versions.


    Thanks dude but its creating V2 already (technically 2.1).
    This discussion sent me down the rabbit hole of color /media pro once again and I got some weird results.
    I somehow got Media Pro to match the colors from C1 in normal viewing mode. So in that way it acts OK.
    However, if I then send the image via e-mail, whether it be jpeg or raw, I get the weird over saturated colors.
    It also does this in light table mode.
    If I drag the jpeg directly from media pro into mail, the colors are fine.
    If I open in Preview, the colors are fine. So it has to be something in Media Pro.
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