how to hide jpgs
I don't see a setting to hide jpgs. I don't wish to process jpg's, they are already processed, I just want to process RAW files but Phase One seems to think I want to process jpgs, as if it were Photoshop. Its not in any of the menu items. Its not in the user manual.
So where is the setting to hide jpg's?
Its stuff like this that make this program usable only by NASA engineers. Who wants a program that is so complicated and does so many things, that you cant do its most basic and important function which is processs RAW files? Who does anything else with this program besides process RAW files?
A search in the user manual for both .jpg and jpg returned 1(one) entry, and it informed me that jpg's have a lower dynamic range than raw files.
So where is the setting to hide jpg's?
Its stuff like this that make this program usable only by NASA engineers. Who wants a program that is so complicated and does so many things, that you cant do its most basic and important function which is processs RAW files? Who does anything else with this program besides process RAW files?
A search in the user manual for both .jpg and jpg returned 1(one) entry, and it informed me that jpg's have a lower dynamic range than raw files.
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Chalk this up as another in the long list of stupidity that is Capture One since version 3.7. 0 -
If your JPEGs come from the camera due to a RAW+JPEG setting, I suggest to store the JPEGs in a separate (sub)folder. Currently CO 4 & 5 do not have the option to hide JPEGs. 0 -
No, i simply have a folder of both raw files and jpgs. Why would a perfectly good feature that used to be included, such as hiding jpgs, be removed? 0 -
I'm still waiting for a reply. 0 -
2 things to consider (I'm using a PC, so YMMV):
Folders with a lot of files in them load v e r y s l o w l y in C1.
Organizing files in C1 is not its strong suit
The only thing I was able to do (after banging my head against it for hours) was:
sort by file size
create an album in my session
select all the RAW files
drag them to the album
But, I wanted to organize a bit more to reduce session loading times:
so, then sort that album by another criteria (say - Exposure)
make another new album for those settings
select all files with that exposure, put them in the new album
hope C1 doesn't crash
Of the many things wrong with this solution:
You can't "bulk remove" files from an album (shift-select, press Delete)
You can't multi-color code files anywhere (shift-select, set a color or rating etc.)
Or, I don't know the secret handshake for that. I tried clicking the "1" button to see if that helped... I didn't see it make a difference.
None of this is a good solution. If C1 crashes during this, you lose ALL your organization work.
I asked about filing, searching, and filtering on metadata on here previously and basically, you need to organize stuff before jumping into Capture One.
I've tried Expression Media 2 to do some organizing. It can do what I want, but also relies on folders (which I hate). I put metadata on pictures for a reason...
Also, it isn't clear to me that Expression Media's ratings show up in the filesystem and in Capture One. I set a lot of things (ratings, color, metadata) and haven't really seen it appear in Windows Explorer.
Expression Media started crashing too... this is all on a fresh computer. EM's roadmap is unclear. Microsoft has advanced the other Expression suite, but not EM.
Another solution is to use Windows Live Photo Gallery to import and organize files. You can sort, filter, etc. on most file attributes and create sub folders very easily. Windows Explorer can do that too actually (just add attribute columns to the Details view of your files). If you are on XP, install Windows Desktop Search 4.0 and your searching / filtering will improve dramatically.
Anyhow, my 30 day trial of C1 is almost up and it's crashed much more than makes me comfortable. I just applied the update and it blew up again on a file operation.
I like the results of Capture One, but right now, Lightroom 3 beta 1 is more stable. I just don't like LR much.
TTFN
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Hi Gregg,
Thanks for your experience. I just expect things to work and for a long time C1 did just that and way better than anyone else. But then they tried to "improve it" and it looks like new engineers got ahold of the program, engineers that aren't experienced with end users and that didn't know how to program for usability, they jumped in over their head. I was going to go with Lightroom sooner or later, I knew I had to, but was putting it off as long as possible, Adobe has a longer history in this area. C1 is king of color management, no doubt about that, I just cant keep going to a forum every time I need something that either isn't in the user manual at all or has a minimal entry with insufficient information. I deleted some files while in C!, and it looks like they were deleted from my hard drive and are not in my recycle bin. The manual does not say this will happen, anywhere. I do not have the incorrect settings on my "recycle bin" which is what they call it on a PC although that is never mentioned, and there was no warning that this would happen, and I don't have time to research the problem. In the previous version when you hit delete the file was given an extra extension and so wasn't readable, but was still available if needed. To put a feature like this in the program is pretty dumb, and then to point to the manual and say "you didnt read the instructions" just frustrates everyone. And the screen grabs in the manual? They are so blurry as to be unreadable. I can afford to switch since I haven't had to upgrade recently and C1 5 expects you to spend more time learning the program than is worthwhile to use its features.0 -
[quote="Roger12" wrote:
I deleted some files while in C!, and it looks like they were deleted from my hard drive and are not in my recycle bin. The manual does not say this will happen, anywhere. I do not have the incorrect settings on my "recycle bin" which is what they call it on a PC although that is never mentioned, and there was no warning that this would happen, and
If I delete files in C1 they don't go in the recycle bin, but they do go in the C1 trash folder (visible in the library). They are therefore not gone for ever (unless I empty the trash).
I'm still using version 4.8, so I can't guarantee that this is the same in version 5.
Ian0 -
From the manual "Trash. When deleting images, the image file will be placed in the OS trashcan from where it can be restored in case you have second thoughts about
deleting the file."
This how I am supposed to find the Trash folder, a Mac screen shot that is so low res you cant tell what it is. I cant post it here but have a look for yourself on p54. The only thing worse than the layout and interface and usability of this program is the user manual.
http://www.rogerbeck.com/Untitled-1.jpg0 -
[quote="Roger12" wrote:
From the manual "Trash. When deleting images, the image file will be placed in the OS trashcan from where it can be restored in case you have second thoughts about
deleting the file."
This how I am supposed to find the Trash folder, a Mac screen shot that is so low res you cant tell what it is. I cant post it here but have a look for yourself on p54. The only thing worse than the layout and interface and usability of this program is the user manual.
Roger12,
What is your question?0 -
C1 should go back to what it has alway done well: being a RAW converter. Leave digital asset management, IPTC editing, and all the other bells and whistles to purpose-built tools like Fotoware, PhotoMechanic and the like. Just pass all the data through. However good the dust removal is in C1 for instance I will still have to check it at 100% in PS so I can continue to process it there.
I suspect most of us have better tools for those purposes than C1 will ever be. I have even started using PhotoMechanic to produce small finished image for web use: thumbnails and the like.
I am thinking of upgrading my screens to high resolution 24 inch (1920x1200)or bigger (2560 x 1600) but I am very concerned that the text and buttons will be unusably small. I currently use a traditional 21inch at 1600 x 1200 and it is marginal. Not all C1 users are in their 20s; I suspect most are not but the developers probably are judging by the size of the icons, text and the mouse precision that is required!
And yes, get some proper technical authors to produce a comprehensive user manual (problem might be that even the developers seem to be not sure what functions actually work).
There is still an excellent product trying to get out from under all the junk that Phase One does not seem to have the resources to get working properly. Come on guys, focus on what you are good at.
Unfortunately most of the other converters are heading down the FATWARE route so it looks as though I will have to go Lightroom or ACR in PS - REALLY, REALLY DON'T WANT To but it feels inevitable. I have been battling with IPTC processing issues since version 4 was launched but now I am going to have to pay to upgrade it is making me think long and hard. Fortunately I do not plan changing cameras in the near future so I can continue with 4.8.3, not perfect by a long way but I have workarounds even if they are very clunky.0 -
"Roger12,
What is your question?"
Here goes: Why don't you listen to your customers? Why do you insist on making this program more than it can or should be and in the process losing customers? Its one thing to be top dog in your area and dictate terms. Its another to lose your customer base and alienate a generation of photographers by being unresponsive to their needs.
And you never answered my previous question: Why are perfectly good features removed, ones that everyone loved about the program removed, such as keyboard shortcuts for adjusting exposure and color? Or hiding jpg's? Why are the screen shots in the manual so bad as to be unusable? Someone either screwed up, wasn't watching, or just didn't care. Any of those indicate a serious problem within your company.
You valued my opinion early on when I was beta testing Canon raw files for you, why are you not listening now?
Ever heard of Canon? They used to make professional digital cameras. They are losing market share to Nikon at a very rapid rate because they are not paying enough attention to quality control.0 -
[quote="Roger12" wrote:
From the manual "Trash. When deleting images, the image file will be placed in the OS trashcan from where it can be restored in case you have second thoughts about
deleting the file."
Yes, it does say that. In fact, experiment shows that you can navigate to a folder in the library, right click it and select "Set a Trash folder" so if you want you can get click the trash icon and that's where they will end up. I agree that the manual is less than comprehensive in what it says. (But then if you consider a program like Lightroom, you can go into a book shop and buy whole books about how to use it. The C1 manual would get quite large I suppose if it were to have equivalent coverage. It's a pity no-one has written an equivalent book for C1.)
Ian0 -
[quote="Roger12" wrote:
"Roger12,
What is your question?"
Here goes: Why don't you listen to your customers?
Roger12,
I assume you like to have direct response from Phase One (you talk about 'your customers'). This is a user-to-user forum. Please see the guidelines in this sticky thread:
viewtopic.php?p=25536#p25536
And in case you might have a different understanding: I am not a Phase One representative, just a user like yourself.0
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