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Backup from macOS to open in Windows

fotojenic777
If I copied the complete Pictures directory (which holds the COP catalogue and referenced images) from my Mac to a FAT32 formatted USB drive can I open it as a working catalogue in Windows as is or will I have to import into a new catalogue?
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I am not sure Mac COP catalogues could be opened with Windows, as the two versions (Mac and Windows) are different.
    Maybe would you find an answer by reading their FAQ on their website ?
    Cheers,
    Robert
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  • fotojenic777
    [quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
    I am not sure Mac COP catalogues could be opened with Windows, as the two versions (Mac and Windows) are different.
    Maybe would you find an answer by reading their FAQ on their website ?
    Cheers,
    Robert


    Robert. I suspect that the words windows and macOS were too generic to find anything relevant.

    Thanks
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  • Permanently deleted user
    OK, sorry. But I don't understand your question, then. If it is only a problem of formatting your disk, I think it could be opened whatever the format is, provided you open it with the software version with which you created your catalog. Otherwise, I have some doubts....
    Robert
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  • fotojenic777
    [quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
    OK, sorry. But I don't understand your question, then. If it is only a problem of formatting your disk, I think it could be opened whatever the format is, provided you open it with the software version with which you created your catalog. Otherwise, I have some doubts....
    Robert


    Ok let me phrase it a different way - how would I transfer my existing COP catalog from a mac to a windows pc? Assume images are on a referenced networked drive.
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  • John Doe
    What happens if you open it in the Windows version of CO?
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  • fotojenic777
    [quote="John Doe" wrote:
    What happens if you open it in the Windows version of CO?


    I don't know. I only have a Mac. That is essentially what I'm asking - will it open up in a Windows version of CO or will I need to import it.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="fotojenic777" wrote:
    [quote="John Doe" wrote:
    What happens if you open it in the Windows version of CO?


    I don't know. I only have a Mac. That is essentially what I'm asking - will it open up in a Windows version of CO or will I need to import it.


    So, I understood quite well your question !! You want to open a catalog built under the COP Mac version with a COP Windows version.
    As I told before, I have some doubts about opening a Mac COP catalog with a Windows COP version.
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  • John Doe
    I don't see why it wouldn't work. Wouldn't cost you anything to try both methods, anyway.
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  • fotojenic777
    [quote="John Doe" wrote:
    I don't see why it wouldn't work. Wouldn't cost you anything to try both methods, anyway.


    Only got a mac, trying to see if the windows performance is better but I don't want to spend loads of time transferring the cat. Thanks.
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  • fotojenic777
    [quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
    [quote="fotojenic777" wrote:
    [quote="John Doe" wrote:
    What happens if you open it in the Windows version of CO?


    I don't know. I only have a Mac. That is essentially what I'm asking - will it open up in a Windows version of CO or will I need to import it.


    So, I understood quite well your question !! You want to open a catalog built under the COP Mac version with a COP Windows version.
    As I told before, I have some doubts about opening a Mac COP catalog with a Windows COP version.


    Thanks again. Hopefully someone has done this to get a definitive answer.
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  • SFA
    I'm fairly sure there have been quite recent posts about this requirement.

    If you can't get the forum search to give you anything have you tried a Google search?

    Alternatively just scroll through the forum going back a month or two looking for likely popst titles - quicker than waiting for someone to drop by.

    HTH.

    Grant
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  • fotojenic777
    Thanks Grant. Finally found what I was looking for in workflow and common photography exploration. It sort of works in that you need to relocate the referenced images each time you open the cat in the other OS. That will be fine for me as I'm only looking to have belt and braces recovery options.

    Thanks to all of you guys for comments and suggestions

    Regards
    Robin
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="fotojenic777" wrote:

    Only got a mac, trying to see if the windows performance is better but I don't want to spend loads of time transferring the cat. Thanks.


    Let us know how it turns out. I am also struggling with CO Catalog performance on a Mac. I check Windows forum from time to time and there are far fewer posts about poor performance. I don't know if CO actually works better on Windows or they have far fewer users on a Windows platform. But if performance is indeed better on Windows, I don't mind switching to Windows as all the software I use works there too.
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  • fotojenic777
    [quote="bager" wrote:
    [quote="fotojenic777" wrote:

    Only got a mac, trying to see if the windows performance is better but I don't want to spend loads of time transferring the cat. Thanks.


    Let us know how it turns out. I am also struggling with CO Catalog performance on a Mac. I check Windows forum from time to time and there are far fewer posts about poor performance. I don't know if CO actually works better on Windows or they have far fewer users on a Windows platform. But if performance is indeed better on Windows, I don't mind switching to Windows as all the software I use works there too.


    I noticed that about the Windows version too. Also if you look at bug fixes in any given release the number relating to crashes or poor performance is far fewer.

    At the moment I do not have a windows machine though I am getting a low spec Mac book air that I will use as another backup. If/when I do get a Windows machine I'll let you know how it works.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="bager" wrote:
    I don't mind switching to Windows as all the software I use works there too.


    Including Capture One ?
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  • Michael Mason
    I have the same question.
    I have the catalog on MacPro (El Capitain) and wish to move it to Windows 10.

    I selected the top user collection, did "Export as Catalog" and ticked the box "include files". This puts all image files in the catalog (so my catalog went from referenced to managed). (In MacOS the catalog looks like a single file, in Win10 the catalog becomes a folder structure.)

    Tranfered catalog via File Sharing.
    So far, it seems to work, but I have gotten (dozens or rather: uncountable) errors: "Proxy Creation Failed". So while things look superficially good, who knows what deeper errors/malfunction have occurred, until I spend a week or so and then find the catalog an unusable mess, or lose unknown numbers of images.

    Seems to me that PhaseOne would give guidance on an orderly method to perform this operation, but searching through support I find nothing, and a year ago when I asked this question here, it was ignored.

    😡 😡
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  • fotojenic777
    It's not good that you are getting odd errors. Maybe the export as catalogue option is for the same os only. Please post back if you come to any conclusion after using if for a while longer
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  • RobiWan
    Use the same catalog on WIndows and OSX is not a big problem. I'm use this since 2-3 years

    [quote="Bodo Renzenbrink" wrote:

    Tranfered catalog via File Sharing.


    Maybe this is your error.

    [quote="Bodo Renzenbrink" wrote:

    In MacOS the catalog looks like a single file


    but really it's the same folder structure as on Windows
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  • Michael Mason
    @fotojenic777 @robiwan

    Thanks for your comments.
    The errors I was getting, it turns out ( 🤭 ) were due to a number of files, maybe 15 out of 3000, that had unresolved references to the original file. Aggravating as it was, I had to re-export the catalog just to make handwritten notes noting each file, and then go back to the original catalog and fix each one. (I never like performing a critical operation like the this and ignoring any kind of error, as one never knows on the far end what devastating repercussions "little" errors on the near side may lead to.) So that problem is solved.
    --Still, it seems to me that when one is doing a "verify catalog" operation, Cap1 could also report unresolved links. Maybe even print such results to file. For that matter, maybe "verify catalog" altogether could give the option of writing some sort of log file so one could more easily note what sort of errors are being reported. That's my suggestion.

    robiwan: apparently you are correct, but as I recall, in MacOS it looks like a single file. It confused me for moment.

    I believe then that I am correct in saying that catalogs will transfer w/o issues between Windows and MacOs. However, since performing the above error fixes, I have not attempted to transfer again the catalog as I found other maintenance issues (importing a number of image files that I overlooked) I wanted to fix first.
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  • fotojenic777
    @bodo

    I love the idea of a fully detailed log file from a verify operation
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  • RobiWan
    [quote="Bodo Renzenbrink" wrote:

    robiwan: apparently you are correct, but as I recall, in MacOS it looks like a single file. It confused me for moment.


    OSX has a feature "special/ hidden directory". Then its looks like a single file. You can verify it with right click on this file and select "show package". Then you see the complete directory structure.

    If I need to switch from Win to OSX or OSX to Win I always change manually values in the database file *.cocatalogdb. For me it is easier and safer.

    [quote="Bodo Renzenbrink" wrote:

    --Still, it seems to me that when one is doing a "verify catalog" operation, Cap1 could also report unresolved links.


    But unresolved link has nothing to do with corrupt database. It can be intentional that some images are offline.
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