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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Contact support. They'll help you out.
    http://www.phaseone.com/SupportMain.aspx
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    1. i can't shows or pointing the pictures from MP Catalog in Capture One 8 ?
    2. all Changes on pictures that been don with Capture one 8 are not showing in MP no synchron between tow programs
    3. Open with " Capture One " don't works !
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  • Permanently deleted user
    1. MP was never designed to work with C1 catalogues - it predates them. However, it does send files to be opened in C1 8 sessions. If you want to send files to a catalogue from MP I simply drag them to the icon in the desktop. That has worked for me. Make sure that you keep them in their current location.

    2. Because C1 catalogues keep the changes they make internal to the catalogue they are not readable by MP. Changes from sessions will be read.

    3. See my point in 1 above.

    I have been having some real memory problems with 1.5, but it is behaving more or less as I expected with C1 8. Trying a clean install to see if that sorts the problem out.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    well its look like i dont have any kind of benefit to us this MP programme on the mac
    because with the OSX Spotlight i can find all my holly Images and document on the HD.
    if MP ist not a DAM Programm, what is it please ❓
    i thought that i can manage my Images by using MP and open it with other Programs like C1 8 ❗️
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Well, MP is a DAM programme and a far more flexible DAM than the DAM in C1 8 catalogues (although this is much improved from C1 7). To take one example, C1 8 can't really cope with MOV files. You are also limited to the cameras currently supported by C1. MP can manage a far wider range of images than C1 and use other programmes to develop them if appropriate.

    As I said, you can send images to a C1 8 catalogue by dragging the images to the C1 icon in the dock. Just remember to keep them in their current location in the import dialogue.

    You can apply metadata to images in MP and then sync or reload the metadata for the images in C1 if you wish.

    Personally I think the best use of MP is to act as a master catalogue of all images. Your picks/stars are then sent to C1 for development and output.

    However, this may not suit your workflow, in which case MP may not be for you.
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    sorry ! i dont andersatand this.
    when i send picture to C1 using your droub method C1 openes the Import dialog after i hit the import button, C1 dont shows or pointet the selected picture in the Catalog !

    the athour problem is that MP cann only read the Oginal folder in the C1 Catalog and not bee able to read the changes file from C1.
    the only benifide is that MP can read the Tags, Keywords from C1. that it .
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  • David Mantripp
    Personally I think the best use of MP is to act as a master catalogue of all images. Your picks/stars are then sent to C1 for development and output.


    That is some of the best advice I've heard around here for a while. This approach makes the best use of the strengths of each application. There's no point trying to force Media Pro / Capture One to work like Lightroom, or Aperture, because the approach is fundamentally different. The main problem is that even PhaseOne seem to get confused about this: imho there is not one useful training resource on effectively using the two products together.

    This would work even better if PhaseOne got off the ****s and added a few features, for example:

    - basic edits such as crop and rotate in MP recognised in C1
    - C1 versions recognised in MP (Photo Supreme can do this, fercrissakes, isn't that just a little bit embarrassing, Ulf & co ?)
    - General version feature in MP (even just a basic filename based approach), to allow management of formats that C1 does not support,e.g PSD, or, shock, horror, to use sometimes an alternative Raw developer.

    How hard could this be, really ? I've spent a good while and $99 evaluating PhotoSupreme, and getting to grips with it. It's a viable alternative to MP, and does certain things better. But MP remains more elegant and faster. I'm still oscillating between my post-Aperture strategy being PhotoSupreme+Iridient Developer or Media Pro+Capture One. I'm tending towards Team PhaseOne today, but seeing some kind of recognition from the chaps in Copenhagen they do actually own possibly the best standalone DAM ever made, and they're going to actually do something with it would help...
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    is MP 1.5 still a 32bit Programm on Mac ?
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  • CAPTURE NIKON D700
    Personally I think the best use of MP is to act as a master catalogue of all images. Your picks/stars are then sent to C1 for development and output.


    do you mean that we have to do the following steps
    1. make a folder on HD for Pictures
    2. import images path to MP
    3. Open and edit Images in C1

    well i will tray it today 😁

    but i have a main Catalog and not a session in C1 ☹️ and my pictures are closed inside a Catalog

    thank you i tried it and dont works 🤭
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Hi Capture Nikon D700

    The important thing to realise is that you can't send images from MP to a C1 catalogue 'the normal way' by using a helper application. However, if you select the images you want and drag them to the C1 icon in the dock (I normally have the catalogue that I want open to avoid mistakes), then C1 should open the import dialogue box. Just make sure that you don't import the images to the C1 catalogue or to another folder if you want to maintain the two-way dialogue with MP. (i.e. you keep them as referenced not managed). That definitely works for me. I prefer to manage metadata in MP. It is definitely slicker than C1 (although C18 is much improved).
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  • paintbox
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    Contact support. They'll help you out.
    http://www.phaseone.com/SupportMain.aspx


    I contacted support. Here's their response:

    Media Pro is simply a digital asset managment software with very limited colour managment.
    While Capture One has full colour managment.
    Some difference due to this is to be expected.
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  • NNN635577306872540661
    Media Pro is simply a digital asset managment software with very limited colour managment.
    While Capture One has full colour managment.
    Some difference due to this is to be expected.


    Can someone explain what they might mean by this?

    In another communication, support said:
    Media Pro assumes an Adobe RGB 1998 conversion on raw files displayed, or utilzes the embedded profile for others. Everything is translated for screen using the monitor profile.


    I'm trying to understand if these two statements mean the same thing. How much fuller does colour management get?

    I'm new to MediaPro, finally being forced to leave iView after buying a new iMac. So, new software and new computer; my catalogs and pix look different on screen than they did before. Both machines have monitor profiles. I know my eyes are confused by the grey on black lettering and the interference-like colors in the left pane but maybe there is something more.
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  • paintbox
    I call BS on the "Everything is translated for screen using the monitor profile." statement.
    If MP truly honored the monitor profile, no one would be having these issues.
    Someone stated in another forum that either its color managed or it isn't. There are no grey areas.

    No other software I use has this issue, not one.

    I really like MP as a DAM as far as speed. Its color issues and relationship with C1 are two obstacles that really need to be addressed.
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  • NNN634414457590981889
    The 1.5 update seems to have solved the issue with helper apps. However, simply stating that media Pro can't be opened is a strange new behaviour. I have had to install it again it twice today. That fixes it, but I'm not sure if it will last very long.

    I have used Media Pro and it's various predecessors for many, many years, and I hesitate to dump it, mainly because of all the tags I have put on my photos. The main gripe I'm having with Media Pro these days is that it doesn't have a clue about the resolution of my new Retina iMac (5120 x 2880). It stubbornly believes that my resolution is 2560 x 1440. The result is that I cannot use Media Pro for viewing my photos in the correct size anymore, and it renders the photos badly when trying.
    The incredible thing is that Apple's own app, Preview, can't cope with the large resolution either. That, of course, is somewhat of a scandal! But even so, I think Phase One should be able to fix this for Media Pro.
    The only reliable tool I have found so far for slide-showing my photos, is good old Graphic Converter by Lemke Soft.
    Kudos to Thorsten Lemke!
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