New Macbook and Capture One
Is anyone using or has anyone tried Capture One 8 or 9 on a new Macbook? If so, does it run fast enough to maintain a reasonably-paced workflow? If it is fast enough with JPEG files, is it also fast enough with RAW files? Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated. (Has anyone at Phase One tested it?)
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I''m not really sure what answer you are looking for?
Will it work smoothly? Yes
Will it process or as smoothly as on much beefier hardware than a MBP ? Of course not.
You need to be much less relative, or you can't really use the answers you might get.0 -
I posted a comparison of MBP 2009 and MBPr 2014 in here:
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=21729&p=103659#p103659
Remark: The MBP 2009 only becomes laggy in masking with too much multitasking around CO (PS and others open).
Regards,
Hans0 -
[quote="HansB" wrote:
I posted a comparison of MBP 2009 and MBPr 2014 in here:
Wich CPU have both MBP? 2014 Version with i7 4 Cores and 2009 C2D with 2 Cores?0 -
[quote="RobiWan" wrote:
[quote="HansB" wrote:
I posted a comparison of MBP 2009 and MBPr 2014 in here:
Wich CPU have both MBP? 2014 Version with i7 4 Cores and 2009 C2D with 2 Cores?
Yes, correct.
Regards,
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I am running Capture One 9.0.3 on my mid 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro Retina, 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM – I do all my post-processing work on it.
I primarily deal with 16 megapixel Fujifilm X-Trans Raw files (which I believe can be more CPU-intenstive to process than regular Bayer-sensor files) and find the performance to be acceptable, not great. Good enough though to continue enjoying CP1 as my main photo processor. I often process photo shoots with 200-300 images, using CP1 for all my culling and post-processing work. Edits usually feel quite responsive, but can become a bit laggy on occasion. Processing a single Raw file to JPG takes about 4 seconds.
Hope this helps!
Regards, Yuri0 -
C1 works fine on an MPB 2012 / 13' / i7. Go for at least 8Gb memory.
If mobility is not that important go for a 15' with a separated GPU.
Take care[quote="Justin" wrote:
Is anyone using or has anyone tried Capture One 8 or 9 on a new Macbook? If so, does it run fast enough to maintain a reasonably-paced workflow? If it is fast enough with JPEG files, is it also fast enough with RAW files? Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated. (Has anyone at Phase One tested it?)0 -
[quote="NNN635158767546269381" wrote:
C1 works fine on an MPB 2012 / 13' / i7. Go for at least 8Gb memory.
If mobility is not that important go for a 15' with a separated GPU.
Do you have a recommendation for a separated GPU? Will it work with (at home) and also without (on the road)?0 -
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
[quote="NNN635158767546269381" wrote:
C1 works fine on an MPB 2012 / 13' / i7. Go for at least 8Gb memory.
If mobility is not that important go for a 15' with a separated GPU.
Do you have a recommendation for a separated GPU? Will it work with (at home) and also without (on the road)?
I think when he/she said separated...meant like the dedicated/discrete GPU in the high-end 15" MBP.
Or those Thunderbolt, external GPUs0 -
[quote="Wesley" wrote:
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
[quote="NNN635158767546269381" wrote:
C1 works fine on an MPB 2012 / 13' / i7. Go for at least 8Gb memory.
If mobility is not that important go for a 15' with a separated GPU.
Do you have a recommendation for a separated GPU? Will it work with (at home) and also without (on the road)?
I think when he/she said separated...meant like the dedicated/discrete GPU in the high-end 15" MBP.
Or those Thunderbolt, external GPUs
Let's not guess what
NNN635158767546269381
is using, but wait to hear his reply 😉
@Nicolas, what are you using?0 -
Sure. I meant a discrete GPU like one found in 15' MBP.
I am using an I7 with HD4000. The OpenCL chio is about as fast as the CPU itself, so C1 only get little advantages using OpenCL. A friend of mine, is using a 15' MBP with discrete GPU, and it's faster..
Well, I have no experiences with external thunderbold GPU. It could be a nice option... Anyone does expereinces ?
Regards[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
[quote="Wesley" wrote:
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
Let's not guess what
NNN635158767546269381
is using, but wait to hear his reply 😉
@Nicolas, what are you using?0 -
[quote="NNN635158767546269381" wrote:
Sure. I meant a discrete GPU like one found in 15' MBP.
I am using an I7 with HD4000. The OpenCL chio is about as fast as the CPU itself, so C1 only get little advantages using OpenCL. A friend of mine, is using a 15' MBP with discrete GPU, and it's faster..
Well, I have no experiences with external thunderbold GPU. It could be a nice option... Anyone does expereinces ?
Thanks, Nicolas,
OK, so you have an early 2013 model with 1GB memory, then. Which model does your friend use?
I usually update my MBP every 3 years but I need a DVD drive and more ports which new models don't have. So I want to upgrade a 2012 model with fast SSD and more RAM. A friend says that the metadata handling in vers. 9 is now better, so I might upgrade Capture One. However, 2GB Graphics is suggested - bad new for older MBPs.
IF vers.9 is fast enough with 1GB Graphics (which you hint), then it could be used when traveling and an external thunderbolt GPU added when back home. I don't know whether "memory on demand" will work. (In 3 years time if demands on hardware increase, then it will be time to build a Frankenstein Mac, unless Apple has started listening.
* Anybody here with experience using an external thunderbolt GPU?
* Any more comments on speed with details of file size, processor, memory, graphics, please?0 -
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
[quote="NNN635158767546269381" wrote:
Sure. I meant a discrete GPU like one found in 15' MBP.
I am using an I7 with HD4000. The OpenCL chio is about as fast as the CPU itself, so C1 only get little advantages using OpenCL. A friend of mine, is using a 15' MBP with discrete GPU, and it's faster..
Well, I have no experiences with external thunderbold GPU. It could be a nice option... Anyone does expereinces ?
Thanks, Nicolas,
OK, so you have an early 2013 model with 1GB memory, then. Which model does your friend use?
I usually update my MBP every 3 years but I need a DVD drive and more ports which new models don't have. So I want to upgrade a 2012 model with fast SSD and more RAM. A friend says that the metadata handling in vers. 9 is now better, so I might upgrade Capture One. However, 2GB Graphics is suggested - bad new for older MBPs.
IF vers.9 is fast enough with 1GB Graphics (which you hint), then it could be used when traveling and an external thunderbolt GPU added when back home. I don't know whether "memory on demand" will work. (In 3 years time if demands on hardware increase, then it will be time to build a Frankenstein Mac, unless Apple has started listening.
* Anybody here with experience using an external thunderbolt GPU?
* Any more comments on speed with details of file size, processor, memory, graphics, please?
Have you ever heard a pre-retina MBP at max fan speed? It sounds like a plane engine.
I own a 2011 15" MBP (2.2 i7 / 16GB / 500GB 850Evo / 6750M 512MB) hooked to 1920x1200 external monitor. I'm finally annoyed by the fan noise that I've been eyeballing the current Mac Pro and iMac.
Only thing that lags a bit on CO9 is scrolling through the picture browser. Editing 36mp+ raws into tiff in Photoshop can get sluggish quick. I like to stick to 24mp or less for my computer.
If you need a laptop than I would just get the latest retina MBP, powered port hub, and external DVD drive. Apple redesign the fan and innards so it will be quieter but don't know by how much compared to mine.
P.S. - can you guys change your forum usernames...0 -
[quote="Wesley" wrote:
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
[quote="NNN635158767546269381" wrote:
Sure. I meant a discrete GPU like one found in 15' MBP.
I am using an I7 with HD4000. The OpenCL chio is about as fast as the CPU itself, so C1 only get little advantages using OpenCL. A friend of mine, is using a 15' MBP with discrete GPU, and it's faster..
Well, I have no experiences with external thunderbold GPU. It could be a nice option... Anyone does expereinces ?
Thanks, Nicolas,
OK, so you have an early 2013 model with 1GB memory, then. Which model does your friend use?
I usually update my MBP every 3 years but I need a DVD drive and more ports which new models don't have. So I want to upgrade a 2012 model with fast SSD and more RAM. A friend says that the metadata handling in vers. 9 is now better, so I might upgrade Capture One. However, 2GB Graphics is suggested - bad new for older MBPs.
IF vers.9 is fast enough with 1GB Graphics (which you hint), then it could be used when traveling and an external thunderbolt GPU added when back home. I don't know whether "memory on demand" will work. (In 3 years time if demands on hardware increase, then it will be time to build a Frankenstein Mac, unless Apple has started listening.
* Anybody here with experience using an external thunderbolt GPU?
* Any more comments on speed with details of file size, processor, memory, graphics, please?
Have you ever heard a pre-retina MBP at max fan speed? It sounds like a plane engine.
I own a 2011 15" MBP (2.2 i7 / 16GB / 500GB 850Evo / 6750M 512MB) hooked to 1920x1200 external monitor. I'm finally annoyed by the fan noise that I've been eyeballing the current Mac Pro and iMac.
Only thing that lags a bit on CO9 is scrolling through the picture browser. Editing 36mp+ raws into tiff in Photoshop can get sluggish quick. I like to stick to 24mp or less for my computer.
If you need a laptop than I would just get the latest retina MBP, powered port hub, and external DVD drive. Apple redesign the fan and innards so it will be quieter but don't know by how much compared to mine.
P.S. - can you guys change your forum usernames...
"6750M 512 MB". If that means 512MB Graphics then I am not surprised that C1 runs slowly if you have an external monitor attached.
Thanks for your tip - but - there is a reason for my apparent madness. I travel and space/weight are restricted. I sometimes even have to leave a lens behind, so I don't want an external DVD drive. "Powered port hub"? I often hunt for power outlets in hotel beadrooms! And the space/weight. NO. I need a MBP with enough power for using C1 at reasonable speed when on the road. When back, then I plug in the calibrated monitor and external thunderbolt GPU - still to be verified if that will work.
There is somebody here using a 2009 MBP, so speed cannot be too bad if you don't hope to use an external monitor. I am just trying to determine what the min display memory requirement will be and in parallel, the capacity of the biggest / fastest graphics available for the flexible 2012 model.
* Any more comments on speed with details of file size, processor, memory, graphics, please?
* Anybody here with experience using an external thunderbolt GPU on a MBP?0 -
You made it sound like CO9 as a whole is slow on my computer, that is not the case. Moving sliders, local adjustments, etc. is not slow. Just scrolling through the picture browser is a little sluggish like having low FPS. CO9 does not use my graphics card and uses solely the CPU. You need at least 1GB graphics for OpenGL.
I was assuming you needed the laptop mainly for on location tethering but I don't think this is the case. You just travel a lot? What do you use the DVD drive for on the road?
Best graphics for 2012 is 1GB Nvidia 650M.
2011 was the last year of the 17" model - the best was 1GB AMD 6770M for both 15/17". However I would avoid 2011 because of widespread GPU failing problems.
External TB GPU is niche right now. I would go to a Mac enthusiast forum for more details on that.0 -
[quote="Wesley" wrote:
You made it sound like CO9 as a whole is slow on my computer, that is not the case. Moving sliders, local adjustments, etc. is not slow. Just scrolling through the picture browser is a little sluggish like having low FPS.
Scrolling through the browser and looking at the preview in the viewer, I assume.
I think this operation involves loading the preview file from disk to RAM (CPU involved) and then just display it on screen. No decoding of the raw image or applying adjustments needed, as this should already be baked into the preview file.
However this is only true if your preview size (preferences) exceeds the pixel size of the viewer window, hence the preview size should be the resolution of you monitor.
And the interface your SSD is connected to also plays a role (sata II vs. sata III), e.g. see here0 -
Similar slowdown whether I use viewer or not. Set my preview size to 1920. I have sata 3.
Filmstrip mode is fast. Grid mode has jerky scrolling movement.0 -
[quote="Wesley" wrote:
Similar slowdown whether I use viewer or not. Set my preview size to 1920. I have sata 3.
Filmstrip mode is fast. Grid mode has jerky scrolling movement.
Are you selecting ALL images from quite a large database?
If so you, depending in what you were doing before you entered the "request" you may be asking the systems to "process" a lot of files and then be challenging the display routines to keep up with your scrolling activity pushing a lot more data from the entire selection than would be the case for a subset for example. Likewise if you are displaying the full grid on screen rather than just the strip the routines have a lot more work to do.
How many images are you seeing in the collection?
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I only use sessions, largest one is 800 D750 raw files. I use browser zoom in between 30-50%. 0 -
[quote="Wesley" wrote:
I only use sessions, largest one is 800 D750 raw files. I use browser zoom in between 30-50%.
Based on your description what I see on my system is about the same as you see. There are, potentially, a lot of files to set up and display and it may take a while to to that, compared to a strip with fewer files. I would guess that memory management is trying to double guess what might be required next. For a strip it could be assumed it would be something either side of the current focus. A grid is more likely to encompass non-contiguous movement up or down the rows for example. The more thumbnails there are to display (in whatever sort order has been set) the more screen real estate needs to be managed.
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