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Why does search string '_C' find ALL files?

NN635610767411198775UL
Our studio shoots raw (.CR2) and images are named X_A.CR2, X_B.CR2, X_C.CR2, etc. Searching for '_A' will find the _A shots, searching for '_B' will find the _B shots, but why does searching for '_C' find ALL the files including _A and _B shots?

Is there a workaround to search for just _C shots?

Is this a reportable bug?
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  • SFA
    What do you get if you search with "_C."?
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="NN635610767411198775UL" wrote:
    Is this a reportable bug?

    Working as expected, I'd say - all of your file names have a "C" in them.

    Grant's suggestion of suffixing the "C" search term with a full stop/period should do the job, as should searching for "_C.C" or "_C.CR2" (indeed, the underscore won't be necessary) .
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  • Mispel3991
    I don't agree with you, Keith. Finding all when using _C suggests that the underscore is used as a wildcard. That is not a standard in IT-land. I would expect an * or % there.
    So for me this is a bug.
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  • Keith Reeder
    Not sure why you'd think that - "*" (asterisk) is the standard wildcard symbol in file name searches.

    "_" (underscore) is routinely used as a file name spacer.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    $ symbol is also used as a wildcard in some applications. 😉
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  • Keith Reeder
    Sure thing - there are other wildcard symbols too; but underscore in file names, not so much, given that it has a standard and common spacer/separator use in file naming, so I see no convincing reason arbitrarily to assume that the underscores here aren't being used for their usual purpose.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN635610767411198775UL" wrote:
    Our studio shoots raw (.CR2) and images are named X_A.CR2, X_B.CR2, X_C.CR2, etc. Searching for '_A' will find the _A shots, searching for '_B' will find the _B shots, but why does searching for '_C' find ALL the files including _A and _B shots?

    Is there a workaround to search for just _C shots?

    Is this a reportable bug?


    When you say "Searching" are you referring to the Search box or applying a Filter selection, e.g. [File Name]> Contains> "_C" ?

    The Search box is not, so far as I can tell, restricted to the file name. It covers all of the uninterpreted meta data and Exif entries. This may make it a little quirky to use, especially if you have a filter or filter query operational at the same time.

    By uninterpreted I mean, by way of example, if you search for "f5.6" seeking a lens aperture setting you may not get any results because the "f", as displayed in the Metadata information window, is not in the data. Searching for "5.6" will likely give you the selection you need - providing that string does not appear, by chance, anywhere else in a Metadata/Exif field for a file in the current selection.

    So I'm wondering if the original example is related to using the Search rather than the Filter tool and just happens to be finding "_C" somewhere, perhaps in a copyright text or some other generally applied entry that appears in all of the files.



    Grant
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  • NN635610767411198775UL
    Hi, so searching for C.C finds no results,
    searching for C.CR2 finds no results,
    searching for _C.C finds no results
    searching for _B finds all the files that are x_B.CR2 (as expected)
    searching for _C still finds ALL files including x_B.CR2 -- I cannot see any _C in the metadata
    I'm using the search box.
    How do I use the Filter tool? I added the Filters tool, but typing in _C in that search box has the same effect as using the search box.

    I still have no way to search for just my _C files.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN635610767411198775UL" wrote:
    Hi, so searching for C.C finds no results,
    searching for C.CR2 finds no results,
    searching for _C.C finds no results
    searching for _B finds all the files that are x_B.CR2 (as expected)
    searching for _C still finds ALL files including x_B.CR2 -- I cannot see any _C in the metadata
    I'm using the search box.
    How do I use the Filter tool? I added the Filters tool, but typing in _C in that search box has the same effect as using the search box.

    I still have no way to search for just my _C files.


    If you cannot see any "_C" character combinations anywhere in the visible Exif data and you are sure the ONLY place that 2 character combination of characters can appear is at the end of the file name but before the file extension then you certainly have a puzzle to solve.

    I would suggest that you create a Support Case and discuss things with the Capture One support team.

    So far as I can see using x.CR2 (for example) will find nothing when used in the search box. But as you have found _B (for example) works fine.

    Unfortunately as far as I can tell there is no specific field to check File Name matches in the Filter tool.

    That is why I think it would make sense for you to talk to the Phase support crew and point out the problem you have and ask them for advice.

    If, somewhere though not readily visible, you have the "_C" in every file I cannot think of an answer to your challenge other than Excluding the _B files (for example) and any other name identifiers you might be using but that would be a rather poor long term approach and hardly an example of precision searching.

    It might work but is not something I would want to rely on when you consider how "open" the current search facility is.

    The only other thing I can think of for immediate use would be to change your naming convention and seek something that is searchable but would not appear anywhere else.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • NN635610767411198775UL
    Weird, but I just tested searching for '_C' again and it worked properly. I think maybe 8.3.3 has corrected the issue. Thanks for all your assistance everybody!
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