Catalogue size
I have been filing my pictures in C1 by the year and would have 8000 pics in each maybe more but I was wondering if I put all my pics into one album would it make pics searching easier. How many pics can C1 reliably handle without causing failures. I would like to here your thoughts on this
Thanks Mike
Thanks Mike
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My main Catalog is about 16000 images and I don't think I am near the limit. I have talked to users who have catalogs of 30,000 images and over 100,000 images, and are happy with the setup.
I don't think large catalogs are more prone to errors, but larger catalogs are slower to open and backup.
For larger catalogs, I think it is important to store image files outside the catalog. If image files are stored inside the catalog, then the catalog file becomes very large, and its difficult to move and to backup. I store my image files in folders in the OSX file system and back them up separately.
Another thing about large catalogs is that the operation of the Filter Tool can become very very slow if there is an IPTC metadata field which has a unique string for every variant. I encountered this when I had saved the original file name in one of the IPTC Metadata fields, Job Identifier.
If every image is in one catalog, you have all your eggs in basket. I configure Capture One to backup a catalog every time I close it. On closing the catalog, the user gets to choose to backup or not. If I have done any significant work I choose to backup.0 -
I'm on Windows but I don't think that matters with this question.
Note you already have an album with all your images in it - the "All Images" collection
I have over 60 000 images and getting ready to search all of them is slow - very annoying actually. I have an on going support case with regard to this. Once C1 has done whatever it does searching is fast.
If you search smaller sub sets the time penalty to get ready to search goes down.0 -
I am on Mac. My catalog is about 22,000 images.
When I go to "All images", it takes about 4 seconds to display them all. And typing in the filter field to find images with the relevant criteria is almost instantaneous.0 -
[quote="MikeKG" wrote:
I have been filing my pictures in C1 by the year and would have 8000 pics in each maybe more but I was wondering if I put all my pics into one album would it make pics searching easier. How many pics can C1 reliably handle without causing failures. I would like to here your thoughts on this
Thanks Mike
Hi Mike
Can you clarify your current situation
I have assumed that you have a number of catalogs, one for each year, but if interpretting your language precisiely (as Ian has), you might have one catalog, with one album for each year.
In my thinking, your question is almost trivial if you already have only the one catalog containing all years, since the All Images album will already show all the years images combined.0 -
I have images by year and then several sessions and what I want to do is have one catalogue so that I am able to search more easily.What are your thoughts on this 0 -
[quote="MikeKG" wrote:
I have images by year and then several sessions and what I want to do is have one catalogue so that I am able to search more easily.What are your thoughts on this
If you import all into one catalog it should work and do what you want.
If you have less than 20,000 images, no problem. If you have more than 100,000 images you might run into performance limitations. How many image files all told?0 -
I'm thinking about 30,000 0 -
30,000 Image files should not be a problem. You may notice a slight decrease in speed while working in All Images, starting at 10,000 images. - Set up Capture One to remind you to back up every time you close a catalog, and backup anytime you make significant changes.
- The catalog backups should go to a physically different drive than the one with the catalog files.
- Use Time Machine or some other app to regularly backup the image files.
- Don't keep the image files in the Catalog.
- Move Filter Tool off the Library tool tab onto a tool tab of its own
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Hi Mike,
I have a little more than 22,000 images, and I haven't face any issue up to now when working with "All images" : it takes about 4 seconds to display them all, and my filter is nevertheless in my library tool tab.
My catalog backups and my RAW images are on an external HDD, and the application and catalog are on my internal SSD. I make catalog backups every week, but I don't shoot that much. I backup all (images, catalog, styles and similar things,..) on a separate backup disk about every fortnight.
Robert0 -
I use catalogs with well over 100.000 images and much larger, each for my different HDs. The larger ones crash sometimes for no reason and backups are not "found" by the C1, which I don`t like and stresses (if you know what I mean). 8.000 images, though, should not be an issue at all in my experience.
Kind Regards,
Uwe0 -
Coming from LR CC, my LR catalog had over 120k images. Capture One Pro 9, 10, 11 and early versions of 12 all choke on large catalogs. My workaround was to split my LR catalog up in to a period of 3 years. In 2017, I started creating a new catalog for each year. I have always used a reference catalog system for images contained on a RAID drive connected via Thunderbolt 2 to my iMacPro. My C1P catalogs are stored on the internal 2TB SSD in my iMacPro with read/write speeds topping 3,000 mb/s.
C1P v 12.1 is faster opening and using my multi-year catalogs. My largest with over 80k images is still sluggish.
Thankfully, C1P allows you to have multiple catalogs open simultaneously, unlike LR. The multiple catalog strategy has obvious inconveniences for searching the library, but I have learned to live with this give the superior image quality results that I'm getting when compared to LR.
It would be fantastic if PhaseOne could develop the ability to search across open catalogues.
Regards,
Bud James
Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto.0
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