Would you ever use Adobe DNG Neutral as your profile?
1.) Would you ever use Adobe DNG Neutral as your profile? Can you think of a reason that this profile would be used?
2.) Does anybody use a profile that is something weird (like using a Canon profile for a Nikon) JUST because they think it looks better?
3.) Why does changing "Soft Proofing" profiles in C1 to something other than "Selected Recipie" appear to do almost nothing?
Sorry to ask so cryptically, but I have nagging concerns that my settings aren't producing the best color, and rather than open up the whole can o worms, I figure these targeted questions might help me understand I'm missing.
(fwiw, I feel my images have too much burnt magenta and too little yellow in them, when using the profiles for my camera (D200 Generic & Portrait). I am trying to emulate my photographic hero (who shall remain nameless) who uses the same camera, lens and software. His images are more yellow, with less burnt magenta - straight out of C1, and he is NOT doing coloring or levels or curves to get there. You'll just have to trust me on that. I have narrowed it down to either a different profile being used, or somewhere I've got a color setting wrong. I think it is something you set and forget about. Hoping anyone can help)
2.) Does anybody use a profile that is something weird (like using a Canon profile for a Nikon) JUST because they think it looks better?
3.) Why does changing "Soft Proofing" profiles in C1 to something other than "Selected Recipie" appear to do almost nothing?
Sorry to ask so cryptically, but I have nagging concerns that my settings aren't producing the best color, and rather than open up the whole can o worms, I figure these targeted questions might help me understand I'm missing.
(fwiw, I feel my images have too much burnt magenta and too little yellow in them, when using the profiles for my camera (D200 Generic & Portrait). I am trying to emulate my photographic hero (who shall remain nameless) who uses the same camera, lens and software. His images are more yellow, with less burnt magenta - straight out of C1, and he is NOT doing coloring or levels or curves to get there. You'll just have to trust me on that. I have narrowed it down to either a different profile being used, or somewhere I've got a color setting wrong. I think it is something you set and forget about. Hoping anyone can help)
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I kind of see where you're going here, Joseph: I'm a Canon 7D user, but I'm really not very keen on the default 7D profile.
I'm actually using the Canon 1D Mk III profile now, renamed so as to be called as the 7D default, and - to my eyes/preferences - the colours are far more natural and balanced: and interestingly, the problem I have with the official 7D profile is too much yellow, and (it's been a while, so from memory) probably too much in the reds/magentas.
Yep, I'd start playing with some other profiles if I was you. Don't Nikon users hold Nikon D2X colours in high regard? It might be worth starting there...
If I'd been unable to identify a satisfactory profile from within Cap One, I'd certainly consider creating one of my own with the Adobe DNG Profile Editor.0 -
Thanks for the reply Keith! Makes me feel better that I'm not the only one thinking of switching profiles.
For some reason, the Adobe DNG Neutral profile - although it acts differently in C1 as far as processing needed, the resulting colors are *extremely* natural. I guess I'm interested in the "why" of all this. For instance, if I have 2 different cameries, and use the same profile for both, will they get the same coloring?
fwiw, I tried reading about color settings in the knowledge base articles, but most of them were about a C1 version prior to v5, and showed options I don't have. I REALLY, REALLY wish there was a way to get more info on this topic. I want the C1 manual to go into these options with greater detail, case examples etc.
Anyway, thanks again Keith! Best of luck with your Canon!0 -
[quote="josephjason" wrote:
http://www.phaseone.com/en/Software/Cap ... rials.aspx
I REALLY, REALLY wish there was a way to get more info on this topic.
https://secure.capture-u.com/
BTW: the DNG profile is actually the same as the "TIF", "JPG", "color view" and "no color correction" profile ... it's a kind of neutral standard without any color correction. Maybe not the worst starting point to make a customized skin tone profile...0 -
The Phase One Color Management Guide is still available for download:
http://www.phaseone.com/en/Downloads/So ... files.aspx
It covers the basics of color management.0
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