Output tif color different than the tuned dng in browser
I'm trying 6.3 64bit on windows 7, with a DNG file converted from my Sony A900 raw.
Here is my problem. After a serial of tuning activities and seemed satisfied with the result appeared in browser window, I started to process and get an output of 16bit tif file. But to my surprise, when I put the resulting tif file side by side with the tuned dng file in browser window, I found a very noticable color different. Pls see my screen shot as below,
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/sigman12/Capture1_output.jpg
Note: the image on the right is the tuned dng, the one on the left is the output tif. The output tif appears less saturated.
A 100% crop with exposure warning tuned on will show what I meant more clearly, as below,
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/sigman12/Capture1_output2.jpg
Note: the tuned dng showed considerable black clipping but the output tif showed hardly any.
Anybody knows why? Thx a lot.
Michael Lin
Here is my problem. After a serial of tuning activities and seemed satisfied with the result appeared in browser window, I started to process and get an output of 16bit tif file. But to my surprise, when I put the resulting tif file side by side with the tuned dng file in browser window, I found a very noticable color different. Pls see my screen shot as below,
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/sigman12/Capture1_output.jpg
Note: the image on the right is the tuned dng, the one on the left is the output tif. The output tif appears less saturated.
A 100% crop with exposure warning tuned on will show what I meant more clearly, as below,
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/sigman12/Capture1_output2.jpg
Note: the tuned dng showed considerable black clipping but the output tif showed hardly any.
Anybody knows why? Thx a lot.
Michael Lin
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Not sure what you mean by "tuned" DNG, Michael.
How did you convert the image file to DNG? If it was converted with Capture One, it isn't "tuned" - quite rightly, no changes to the file are written to Capture One DNG conversions.0 -
Michael,
If you have edited the original DNG file in C1 then it may be something to do with the Output recipe perhaps using a different colour space of including a profile of some sort.
It might be worth eliminating the possibility that that the edit session had Softproofing turned on and set to a value that is not the same as the output recipe.
I'm not familiar enough with these matters ( and have never used DNG) to know whether there is an inherent potential difference in colour handliing and re-display between DNG and TIF files in the same editor although I guess if one is 16 bit and the other 8 bit there could be some colour reproduction compromises on re-display depending in the colours involved.
Grant Perkins0 -
What colour profile does your TIF-recipe use, and what profile is set in the View menu, “Proof Profile� 0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
Not sure what you mean by "tuned" DNG, Michael.
How did you convert the image file to DNG? If it was converted with Capture One, it isn't "tuned" - quite rightly, no changes to the file are written to Capture One DNG conversions.
Keith, "tuned" DNG means the DNG file appearance right before it was ready for producing the output. Sorry for my poor English. The DNG file was converted during the import process using LR3.6 which I was using before trying Capture one 6.0 -
[quote="nggalai" wrote:
What colour profile does your TIF-recipe use, and what profile is set in the View menu, “Proof Profile�
nggalai, I'm not quite sure how to proof profile in Capture one 6 as of now ☹️ , but in the menu "proof profile", I saw the "Prophoto RGB" is selected. To make sure I didn't make anything wrong, I just did another 16bit tif output with "prophoto rgb" selected, I saw the same result.0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
Michael,
If you have edited the original DNG file in C1 then it may be something to do with the Output recipe perhaps using a different colour space of including a profile of some sort.
It might be worth eliminating the possibility that that the edit session had Softproofing turned on and set to a value that is not the same as the output recipe.
I'm not familiar enough with these matters ( and have never used DNG) to know whether there is an inherent potential difference in colour handliing and re-display between DNG and TIF files in the same editor although I guess if one is 16 bit and the other 8 bit there could be some colour reproduction compromises on re-display depending in the colours involved.
Grant Perkins
Hi Grant, thx for your input. As a "new" trial user to Capture one 6, I didn't play much with different preference setting while made the above observation. The output file I got as above was pretty much processed using the "default" preference settings. The tif output file was 16bit.0
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