How to import photos direct from canon
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I have realy easy question. How can I import my photos direct from my canon 40D without using any 3rd software?
I have realy easy question. How can I import my photos direct from my canon 40D without using any 3rd software?
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Put the memory card in a card reader attached to you computer.
Alternatively get your operating system to read the camera as a storage device, copy the files to a disk accessible to the computer and then get Capture One to Import from there.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Alternatively get your operating system to read the camera as a storage device
Any details? 😉0 -
[quote="NNN635646490370449867" wrote:
Alternatively get your operating system to read the camera as a storage device
Any details? 😉
Must be something on a Mac.
I use Windows. I connect the device to the computer via USB. Windows sees a device, loads a driver if it has not seen it before, then pops up a window to ask what I want to do next.
Several options offered depending on the programs I have installed.
Usually I would just copy the files to a drive and then start Capture One and import ....
.... except that really my "usual" is to remove the memory card from the camera, place it in a card reader, connect it to the computer and then fire up Capture One (if not already open) and use the Import feature to get the copying and importing done in one hit.
Hopefully a Mac expert will be along shortly to explain how they work.
Grant0 -
Unfortunately, my computer does not detect the camera as a drive . I can import photos from lightroom or iphoto but I can not set the card as capture one import source directly . Expert, we're waiting for You ; ) 0 -
Expert here! 😂
CO8 does not read the card from your camera when you connect your camera. Connecting means tethering to CO8.
You can however use the Image Capture program, an image download program that comes with every Mac.0 -
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
Expert here! 😂
CO8 does not read the card from your camera when you connect your camera. Connecting means tethering to CO8.
You can however use the Image Capture program, an image download program that comes with every Mac.
....So does that mean :
1) - Launch Image Capture from the Applications folder
2) - Connect the camera via USB
3) - Launch CO8? I am planning to download a CO8 Trial later today and want to start off by importing some images direct from my camera - I don't have a card reader.
Does CO8 offer the option of deleting imported images afterwards like Aperture does?
Alternatively, if I import into Aperture as usual (exclusively RAW images) and then import from Aperture to CO8 Trial, will the RAW conversion of my original camera images already have been done by Aperture and hence not give me the benefit of CO8's reputed to be superior RAW Converter?0 -
[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
Expert here! 😂
CO8 does not read the card from your camera when you connect your camera. Connecting means tethering to CO8.
You can however use the Image Capture program, an image download program that comes with every Mac.
....So does that mean :
1) - Launch Image Capture from the Applications folder
It should launch automatically when you connect the camera. Otherwise, launch it while your camera is connected and in the left bottom corner choose to always open image capture when camera connected. Read up on Image Capture on the internet.[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
2) - Connect the camera via USB
See above.[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
3) - Launch CO8? I am planning to download a CO8 Trial later today and want to start off by importing some images direct from my camera - I don't have a card reader.
I seriously advise you to get a card reader, they're cheap. Other than that, once you've copied the images off of the camera into a directory of choice, open CO8 and point it at that directory. Then import as desired.[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
Does CO8 offer the option of deleting imported images afterwards like Aperture does?
If i'm not mistaken, yes. Others may be certain, i never use CO to do this.[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
Alternatively, if I import into Aperture as usual (exclusively RAW images) and then import from Aperture to CO8 Trial, will the RAW conversion of my original camera images already have been done by Aperture and hence not give me the benefit of CO8's reputed to be superior RAW Converter?
That is correct. But, more importantly, the import from Aperture function is aimed at one time migration from Aperture to CO, not for day to day integration between the two. There may be adverse effects.0 -
Thanks for your help, HCS 😊
Unfortunately my Mac OS 10.10.3 is not mounting the card reader I bought today and neither is Image Capture finding it.
If I use the other route and import the RAW files from my camera via USB cable (Canon DSLR) to a folder on my Mac, I then have no way of seeing those images to decide which to import further into CO8 for post-processing.
So I guess I would need to load ALL the RAW files into CO8 to be able to then see the images and then Trash the rejects from within CO8.
After deciding which images to keep in CO8 is it safe to Trash/delete all the RAW files in the original folder I used for importing from the camera? In other words, is CO8 working from RAW file copies or only by proxy like an alias. Obviously I don't want to reduce valuable HD space with duplicates.
Aperture is so much better at importing etc. Why can't CO8 work the same way in this respect?0 -
When you use Image Capture while you directly connect your camera over USB (or card reader that works with your system), you should be able to see the images and select which one to import. Alternatively, you can use Canon's EOS Utility as well for this purpose and have the same features.
Sorry to hear about your card reader and that it is not working. Not sure whether this has to do with 10.10.3 or that the reader is defect.
Bottomline is, when you like to work with CO8, a card reader is the way to go, so I should invest and investigate your needs and you will at least as happy with CO8 as you were with Aperture, and probably happier. 😉
As I stated earlier in this thread, reading directly from camera is not in CO8's book. Connecting is tethering.
Last but not least: when you trash images you have opened in CO8, trash them from within CO8 as it will trash the sidecar files too (when working with sessions and catalogs) and links to images files (when working with catalogs).0 -
[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
Thanks for your help, HCS 😊
Unfortunately my Mac OS 10.10.3 is not mounting the card reader I bought today and neither is Image Capture finding it.
If I use the other route and import the RAW files from my camera via USB cable (Canon DSLR) to a folder on my Mac, I then have no way of seeing those images to decide which to import further into CO8 for post-processing.
So I guess I would need to load ALL the RAW files into CO8 to be able to then see the images and then Trash the rejects from within CO8.
After deciding which images to keep in CO8 is it safe to Trash/delete all the RAW files in the original folder I used for importing from the camera? In other words, is CO8 working from RAW file copies or only by proxy like an alias. Obviously I don't want to reduce valuable HD space with duplicates.
Aperture is so much better at importing etc. Why can't CO8 work the same way in this respect?
No problem, this is a user-to-user forum, so we're here to help each-other 😄
You're mixing up things, which is understandable if you haven't done this before.
So, you either download your cards to the computer with a card reader or use Image Capture with the camera directly attached.
When you attach the card reader, nothing happens. This is normal. Only when you insert a card in the reader, OSX mounts it (attaches it to the computer) and you should see this in Finder, or directly in CO.
Image Capture is only needed when you attach your camera to the computer via USB. Image Capture can then take care of moving the images from your camera (actually your card inside your camera) to the computer.
Once the images are on the computer, one way or the other, you can then open CO and choose the Import function and point the import function to the folder in which you downloaded your images from card or camera. Then, in CO Import, you choose which images to import into CO.
After that's complete, you simply wipe all images from the original download folder and presto!
By the way, i find some other applications better at managing this part of the workflow. I personally only use CO in Session mode and i have a separate DAM (digital asset management) system which keeps track op the files i have, including downloading, culling, rating etc. From there i choose the images i want to process through CO and "send" them to CO. CO will then in Session mode only open these images, without having to go through the whole import function.
Of course, YMMV 😊0 -
Now I have learnt (thanks to HCS) that a Mac only mounts this card reader when a card is actually inserted (quite clever really, because it then allows you to leave the reader semi-permanently connected to the Mac like an onboard port), I was able this evening to upload 565 RAW files. It did take nearly 40 minutes though! Is that normal for a card reader on USB 2?
So I now have one Catalog with the files in a folder on my HD2 while the CO8 App is on my internal SSD HD.
I was blown way by the superb image quality that CO8 has presented via its RAW Converter and with Auto Adjustments applied on import.
I have been able to Edit with Photoshop CS6 (as a TIF) and Perfect Photo Suite within Photoshop, auto saving back into CO8. This was the same workflow I favoured with Aperture.
I don't think I'll be waiting all the 30 days before I buy a licence for CO8!0 -
Robin,
A reader without a memory card inserted is not an active device although using Windows it might be recognised and drivers might be installed if not already present.
As for your our copy over times ... not unreasonable using USB2 I would think.
Much depends on the file size - not trivial with a 7D2 I would imagine (assuming that was the source device)
On Windows with a 1D3 or a 600D I see faster times but the files are smaller and I am loading to an internal fast SSD (usually). I also tend not to do any additional processing - just the basic conversion - during the load and I use sessions.
Other than creating a backup of the RAW files somewhere I keep the session on the internal drive until I have finished processing and output before copying the whole thing to an external drive (or two drives if I am going to remove it from the SSD). If it is a big shoot I may create a copy part way through.
Typically I mostly shoot what can be classed as events so the separate session approach works for me and I avoid the potential overhead of a catalogue BUT accept that part of the catalogue's convenience for later search and retrieval is lost. For the most part the event grouping is perfectly adequate for my retrieval needs, such as they are.
I think the various differences in approach probably account for the upload time differences. I don't take much notice of the timing these days but I would guess 500 or so files for me would take about 10 mins but that is to the SSD and with smaller files. The card reader capability and the read speed of the memory card can also be quite significant. So quite a few factors to consider.
HTH.
Grant
PS. I've enjoyed looking at your Flickr pages.0 -
Thanks Grant aka SFA 😊 - That's very helpful.
Copying time from card to computer doesn't actually worry me as I am an amateur photographer without deadline pressures etc but of course I was impatient to see my first ever import into CO8 and to know it had all worked without losing any images, hence my noticing the time. CO8 keeps you informed of the import time unusually accurately. I am primarily shooting on a Lexar Pro CF card overflowing to a Sandisk SD.
Like you probably, my internal SSD (iMac) is only 250 GB and so I strictly only install Apps on it. It's good that CO8 is structured the way it is in that it obliges/encourages you to do 'housekeeping' as you go. My next step is to learn about Sessions and how to organise subject folders/albums within CO8 but I will start a new thread on that subject. I have been watching the CO8 tutorials but they can never cover absolutely every way that a user wants to work.
In due course I will try importing images direct from the camera body via Image Capture.
Yes, I am using a Canon 7D Mark II and wondered how you knew! - Obviously via Flickr and I much appreciate your positive feedback about my photography. I upgraded from a 70D. I haven't posted any CO8 images on Flickr yet and think I might code them 'Subject_1234vc.jpg' when exported.0 -
[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
Thanks Grant aka SFA 😊 - That's very helpful.
Copying time from card to computer doesn't actually worry me as I am an amateur photographer without deadline pressures etc but of course I was impatient to see my first ever import into CO8 and to know it had all worked without losing any images, hence my noticing the time. CO8 keeps you informed of the import time unusually accurately. I am primarily shooting on a Lexar Pro CF card overflowing to a Sandisk SD.
Like you probably, my internal SSD (iMac) is only 250 GB and so I strictly only install Apps on it. It's good that CO8 is structured the way it is in that it obliges/encourages you to do 'housekeeping' as you go. My next step is to learn about Sessions and how to organise subject folders/albums within CO8 but I will start a new thread on that subject. I have been watching the CO8 tutorials but they can never cover absolutely every way that a user wants to work.
In due course I will try importing images direct from the camera body via Image Capture.
Yes, I am using a Canon 7D Mark II and wondered how you knew! - Obviously via Flickr and I much appreciate your positive feedback about my photography. I upgraded from a 70D. I haven't posted any CO8 images on Flickr yet and think I might code them 'Subject_1234vc.jpg' when exported.
Hi Robin,
I know nothing useful about Macs so I can't really compare performance but my Windows notebook had some performance monitoring widgets installed so I get a view of the transfer speeds based on how the disks are performing.
I suspect my SSDs might have a faster rated specification, one being a 500Gb Samsung 840 nominally capable of running at full SATA3 speeds and the other an mSATA 1Tb drive capable of the same speeds but running in a spare comms slot which seems to restrict it to half maximum speed. Still fairly fast though and good enough for general editing. About the same, overall, as using an external USB3 drive on an optimal connection (which connections rarely are most of the time.)
I really like the openness of sessions since I do sometimes use another convertor/editor that has some interesting features and lives comfortably alongside C1 in the same folder structure.
However I can see the benefit of catalogs for collected works and have seriously considered using a catalog of the (suitably keyworded) output files as a sort of index to everything else. The theory works but the effort of going through the "back catalogue" and setting the keywords, etc., to something useful has, thus far, meant I have not made great progress with the task. I think the new Dynamic Locations functionality looks like it could be a useful catalyst as part of that task.
Sessions may look more complicated than they really are at first sight. I would suggest an approach that simply uses what is offered as the default to start with. Later, if you feel the need, you can tune things to your preference in the knowledge that you understand how it will workout.
HTH.
Grant0 -
I am finding that USB connecting my Canon (7D2) directly to my Mac and using Image Capture is very significantly faster than connecting a USB card reader to upload images from camera to computer. 0 -
Hi Robin,
Lots of variables to consider.
The 7D2 has, according to the specs, a USB3 port. Presumably your Mac also has USB3 (or something of equivalent speed that is used for the connection one way or another) and so you should indeed see quite fast downloads. I would imagine the camera might be optimised to get the most out of the memory card read speed when working with the USB3 interface. The video users would like that.
You didn't mention which card reader you bought - they are not all the same and many are still USB2 spec and so significantly slower (than USB3) at maximum performance. There are, according to online reports by those who have performed tests, significant differences in the performance of different readers and different reader/memory card combinations. And of course the memory cards themselves can have very different data transfer specifications.
As a vaguely related example - when writing a large set of files to an external hard drive using USB3 if all is working well I will typically see something between 70 and 80 Mb/second as the average transfer speed although the potential maximum is somewhat higher.
Yesterday I copied a 42Gb Session from an external USB2 drive using a USB2 port on my machine and the average for the transfer of mixed size files was a little over 30MB/sec and took about 24 minutes. Writing the same session from that internal SSD drive (on a SATA2 speed connector) to an external USB3 drive on a USB3 connector is showing an average speed of about 32.4 MB.sec - which is not unreasonable considering what is going in internally to make the transfer. If I was using the main SSD I would expect the speeds to be somewhat higher. However the external USB drives seem to have rules of their own most days!
If using an SD memory card I would just plug that straight in to the card reader slot in the computer and import to C1 directly from there. I assume the Mac has such a slot, they seem to be ubiquitous these days.
HTH.
Grant0 -
My iMac has USB2 not USB3 ports (plus Firewire and Thunderbolt ports). The card reader I bought is a cheap one (£9). My Mac doesn't have any SD or CF slots.
I think I prefer to import images from my camera via Image Capture, not a card reader, directly to a folder on my HD and then only import selectively into CO8. I want to organise all my images by subject and not by date or session and I don't want to have to add keywords to image titles - I don't really like tag/keyword systems.
Although I have watched the Capture One tutorial videos on Catalogs and Sessions I still don't understand how I could use them to organise subject folders/albums like I did in Aperture.0 -
Hi Robin,
I sounds like the card reader/card/Mac interface is not optimal is USB2 direct from the camera is significantly faster.
Of course you should work in whatever way you feel most comfortable but never forget that there are other approaches possible - they may become an attractive alternative as time passes!
Grant0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
Hi Robin,
I sounds like the card reader/card/Mac interface is not optimal is USB2 direct from the camera is significantly faster.
Of course you should work in whatever way you feel most comfortable but never forget that there are other approaches possible - they may become an attractive alternative as time passes!
Grant
....Working in a way which is the most comfortable is certainly essential - Dare I say that it's why I much prefer Macs to Windows PCs.
For now, I feel more confidently in control of how to organise my images if I use the Image Capture import method rather than the card reader. I don't like wiggling all those pins on expensive CF cards anyway and so the less I physically handle a CF card, the better.0 -
[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:
Hi Robin,
I sounds like the card reader/card/Mac interface is not optimal is USB2 direct from the camera is significantly faster.
Of course you should work in whatever way you feel most comfortable but never forget that there are other approaches possible - they may become an attractive alternative as time passes!
Grant
....Working in a way which is the most comfortable is certainly essential - Dare I say that it's why I much prefer Macs to Windows PCs.
For now, I feel more confidently in control of how to organise my images if I use the Image Capture import method rather than the card reader. I don't like wiggling all those pins on expensive CF cards anyway and so the less I physically handle a CF card, the better.
Entirely your choice of course Robin and less of an issue with a camera that offere up to USB3 speeds than it used to be when they only offered USB1!
On the other hand the files sizes are a lot larger now ...
The downside is that you are using battery power in the camera to download and (perhaps not so important) the camera in not available for use as you download.
In my case I may be "on the road" and using every opportunity to keep batteries charged ready for the next day so using a card reader makes more sense for that reason and because I will likely be filling 3 or 4 cards per day. So I am swapping cards anyway.
This may be tempting fate but other than being a little clumsy with a CF way back in the early days with a camera bought used (and so possibly not entirely perfect in the card department anyway) I have not had a problem with any sort of card related to insertion and removal. That old incident, a slightly bent pin, was easily rectified by straightening the pin. One randomly dodgy CF card, unrelated to the pin incident, was replaced by the manufacturer and the replacement has been perfect.
Obviously I take some care not to abuse the kit badly but realistically the modern engineering standards seem to be high enough that card swapping is not something to be worried about so should you ever feel the need to reconsider that angle there really should be no worries.
I am mindful that should you get to to the point of regularly using your full frame rate on wildlife during a busy day of shooting filling a card or two may become a regular occurrence. Don't let concerns about swapping cards cramp your shooting style and enjoyment. There should be nothing to worry about.
HTH.
Grant0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
Entirely your choice of course Robin and less of an issue with a camera that offere up to USB3 speeds than it used to be when they only offered USB1!
On the other hand the files sizes are a lot larger now ...
The downside is that you are using battery power in the camera to download and (perhaps not so important) the camera in not available for use as you download.
In my case I may be "on the road" and using every opportunity to keep batteries charged ready for the next day so using a card reader makes more sense for that reason and because I will likely be filling 3 or 4 cards per day. So I am swapping cards anyway.
This may be tempting fate but other than being a little clumsy with a CF way back in the early days with a camera bought used (and so possibly not entirely perfect in the card department anyway) I have not had a problem with any sort of card related to insertion and removal. That old incident, a slightly bent pin, was easily rectified by straightening the pin. One randomly dodgy CF card, unrelated to the pin incident, was replaced by the manufacturer and the replacement has been perfect.
Obviously I take some care not to abuse the kit badly but realistically the modern engineering standards seem to be high enough that card swapping is not something to be worried about so should you ever feel the need to reconsider that angle there really should be no worries.
I am mindful that should you get to to the point of regularly using your full frame rate on wildlife during a busy day of shooting filling a card or two may become a regular occurrence. Don't let concerns about swapping cards cramp your shooting style and enjoyment. There should be nothing to worry about.
HTH.
Grant
....Good point about battery usage, although even being permanently set to shoot at 10 fps I have yet to exceed about 750 shots on a full day out dawn til dusk. That's on a 16 GB CF card with 32 GB SD card for overflow (the 7D2 has 2 card slots).
Thanks for reassuring me about card insertions/removals to readers. It's no problem on the 7D2 body because of the method of insertion/removal which is designed so you can't actually get it wrong - Canon are good at that sort of thing (user interface).
When using a card reader an insertion automatically opens CO8. Is it possible to select and import different image files on the same card to different folders(?) in CO8? I'm afraid that this is another area in which Aperture excels.0 -
[quote="RedRobin" wrote:
When using a card reader an insertion automatically opens CO8. Is it possible to select and import different image files on the same card to different folders(?) in CO8? I'm afraid that this is another area in which Aperture excels.
Robin,
Yes you should have total control over what you choose to import and where to import it.
V8.2 introduces Dynamic token based imports that open up a whole new range of possibilities although you would need to work out which "tokens" might be readily available for your particular needs.
At the non automated level you can always view the files available, select the ones you want and specify the folder into which you wish to import them (referenced or otherwise) into the catalog. You can also apply filters to and sort the files to be imported as part of the import screen driven process.
http://blog.phaseone.com/how-to-automat ... th-tokens/
HTH.
Grant0
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