Advice for LR users
I have been evaluating CO 11 for the past few days. I'm pretty satisfied with the RAW processing improvements over LR. I have re-processed a few of my favorite personal "tough" shots and gotten some pretty good results. It has been a good way to learn the software.
I am struggling with the management aspect of the software. I have been using LR since it was in beta but I can adapt pretty easily.
The first thing I noticed was that the library import was incomplete. In LR 6 I made sure all my media was online and did a sync on the whole catalog. Just about 50K shots for my master catalog. I started CO 11 with a new catalog and after about 4 hours the import indicated that it was finished importing the LR catalog. The problem is that the LR catalog contained nearly 50K Images but CO 11 only showed 42K images. Nearly 8K were just not there. After spending some time going through the catalog I noticed that some directories were missing, and some images were missing from others. I could discern no pattern.
I then repeated the exact same process again, making sure the existing LR catalog was accurate and all the source images were present. After another 1/2 day the results were the same.
To move forward I then decided to use the import with remove duplicates and keep location option to add the missing items. This process is exceedingly slow. I thought that LR was a bit sluggish... It is scanning about 5K image per hour.
Does anyone else manage a large master catalog with CO 11? Has anyone else made the move and have some advice? For me 1/2 the battle is managing the catalog and knowing / finding the images I need quickly. I have spent countless hours making sure I had accurate keywords and such for catalog management. I can't lose all that work.
Thanks
Jon
I am struggling with the management aspect of the software. I have been using LR since it was in beta but I can adapt pretty easily.
The first thing I noticed was that the library import was incomplete. In LR 6 I made sure all my media was online and did a sync on the whole catalog. Just about 50K shots for my master catalog. I started CO 11 with a new catalog and after about 4 hours the import indicated that it was finished importing the LR catalog. The problem is that the LR catalog contained nearly 50K Images but CO 11 only showed 42K images. Nearly 8K were just not there. After spending some time going through the catalog I noticed that some directories were missing, and some images were missing from others. I could discern no pattern.
I then repeated the exact same process again, making sure the existing LR catalog was accurate and all the source images were present. After another 1/2 day the results were the same.
To move forward I then decided to use the import with remove duplicates and keep location option to add the missing items. This process is exceedingly slow. I thought that LR was a bit sluggish... It is scanning about 5K image per hour.
Does anyone else manage a large master catalog with CO 11? Has anyone else made the move and have some advice? For me 1/2 the battle is managing the catalog and knowing / finding the images I need quickly. I have spent countless hours making sure I had accurate keywords and such for catalog management. I can't lose all that work.
Thanks
Jon
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I've found C1's cataloging to be pretty much useless for large catalogs. My Lightroom catalog currently has about 640,000 photos in it - I essentially do stock, so I need to search across my entire catalog (which spans more than 15 years of work - and I also have been using LR since the version 1 Beta after they purchased RawShooter Pro). The closest I could get without crashing the application is about 250,000 photos from Lightroom (I chunked up my catalog into smaller 80k photos or so catalog exports). I have filed a feature request with Phase One support for large catalog support after I experienced similar results as you did. Currently I do my catalog management and quick edits in Lightroom 6, and any critical edits I do in Capture One using a session, and then just drilling down to the folder containing the photos I need to process via the file tree. It's clunky, but for the time being it works OK for me. 0 -
True, C1 isn't usable when you're dealing with a huge catalog on Windows. It always has to re-read every image in your folders when you want to look at them. Same thing happens in Sessions btw but they're way smaller of course, so it's "okay". Not great either, but okay.
On OSX it's better, there the previews and the whole file structure seems to be stored. Support told me that's normal and as expected.
So now I use Adobe Bridge for browsing through my files and Capture One Sessions for editing the RAW files.0 -
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Does anyone else manage a large master catalog with CO 11? Has anyone else made the move and have some advice? For me 1/2 the battle is managing the catalog and knowing / finding the images I need quickly. I have spent countless hours making sure I had accurate keywords and such for catalog management. I can't lose all that work.
Yes. Granted my catalogue is only 1/10th of @TNanos's at around 64 000 images but I did have similar problems from you and solved them with some help from support. You can read about my method here: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27207#p130622
Short version C1 will not import HDR .dng files and will stop processing a directory that contains them. Also virtual copies are not brought over and that can lead to confusing numbers. What I did was export a temporary LR catalogue using only originals and non HDR .dng files and imported that. That worked perfectly in one shot.
Here are a couple of other threads that you might like to read as well (not directly related to import but discuss the move and differences):
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27698
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Hi,
I am experiencing a similar kind of trouble. C1 terminates the import process before the end, even with a very small LR catalog (about 300 images), that I generated for test purposes I found out that the last imported image was one on which the crop/resize tool had been applied. I deleted this image or the settings and then the next import went further, until the next resized image was found. C1 seems to have a problem with this. I have tested C1 10 before and I have not encountered any LR import problem. So either something has been changed in C1 11 or Adobe has changed some settings so that C1 cannot handle them any more.
Regards
Ingo0
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