Nef files converted with NX2 display corrupt
I'm a long time user of Capture NX2 but since the program has been discontinued I'm looking for a new raw converter and a catalog program (doesn't look as if PM will come up with a catalog in the near future) so I downloaded Capture One 8 to see if it can replace Capture NX2 as my raw converter. Imported some files (nef, tiff and jpg). All nef's previously converted in/by NX2 show up corrupted (they display fine in PhotoMechanic and in Capture NX2 so they are not "destroyed" as such) and that's not good. I know from previous experience that edits from NX2 doesn't display in Capture One but at least they displayed in their original state (but not in version 😎. Is there anything that can be done to have version 8 display at least the original state of the edited file (it's not an option to open all edited files in NX2 and undo the raw conversion and editing)?
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Hans
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Hans
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Hans,
Sorry but edited RAW files are not supported in Capture One.
Sorry for the inconvenience.0 -
Drew,
Although not the answer I was hoping for, thanks for the reply. If I understand you correctly what you are saying is that CP8 catalog is of no use for those who have done raw conversion using other raw converters? I guess that there are a lot of people out there having stacks of raw files that has been run through other converters than CP and if they are to make use of a catalog program for these "old" files they have to find a different solution than CP? As the number of catalog program's are limited (at least on OSX) that is very disappointing for users. I guess that your market share could be increased if CP could display, if not the edited, the original raw file. Is it possible to import "old" files without processing (and have new unedited files processed). If that would be the case I guess CP will be useful also for those jumping from a different set of program's to CP.
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[quote="HvTFoto" wrote:
...you are saying is that CP8 catalog is of no use for those who have done raw conversion using other raw converters?
If they no longer have the original RAW files, which Capture One supports, then that may be the unfortunate reality.
As we support 100's of different RAW files, it's quite the undertaking for our developers. To then support every possible iteration of those files which can be altered in a myriad of different ways, version to version, by many different software's is just unrealistic.
We can support the RAW files as written by the Cameras we list as supported, simple as that. An altered RAW file deviates from the expected format and therefore cannot be read in Capture One.
And it's worth pointing out that, to my knowledge, it is only Nikon NX that actually alters the NEF RAW file. Which, despite my best efforts, I can't see justification for in any practice.0 -
Hans,
For what it is worth; I have no trouble with such files on my Windows 7 system, be it in COP7 or 8. They are of course displayed in their virgin state, without any NX2 edits. COP edits work like a charm on them.
Cheers,
Mogens0 -
Mogens,
NX2 edited raw from my Nikon V1 show up in their virgin state, NX2 edited files from my D3x and D4 show up scrambled. As the vast majority of my nef's are from D3x and D4 I'm out of luck with CP8 and guess that I have to jump ship to LR as LR doesn't have any problems displaying NX2 edited raw files (although in its virgin state).
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Hi, have just tried different NEF files from several Nikon SLR and they all could be imported into C1 8 in their original "virgin" version without any problems. I'm on a Mac with 10.9.5. 0 -
So am I. Have your imported files been edited in NX2? The ones that hasn't been edited display OK but edited files, even if put back to their original unedited version does not display. This far I have only tried on my MacBook Pro. Will try my MacPro when I get home tonight.
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Sorry, yep, all processed in NX2 before. 0 -
It is very poor software design to make a change to a raw file. It's much better practice to use sidecars or a central database to track changes. When you make a write command to a raw file in a raw processor you risk corrupting it (e.g. if the program crashes while writing or there is a bug in the code) and you risk making that raw file not play well with other software.
C1 does not make any change to any raw file. It expects the same courtesy from other software. If you use software which does make such changes then it's not C1's fault if it cannot read those raw files correctly anymore.0 -
[quote="mli20" wrote:
Hans,
For what it is worth; I have no trouble with such files on my Windows 7 system, be it in COP7 or 8. They are of course displayed in their virgin state, without any NX2 edits. COP edits work like a charm on them.
Cheers,
Mogens
Same here but for COP on OS X.
From COP version 6 I have successfully loaded and edited Capture NX edited NEFs in COP. The ability to do so was critical for my purchasing COP in the first place.
Regards0 -
I've now installed and tried on my MacPro (OSX 10.9.5) with the same result as on my MacBookPro, i.e. raw files not edited with Capture NX2 show up just fine, raw files that has been edited in Capture NX2 show up corrupted (metadata is read, but the picture don't display even in its virgin state). As several posters reports success I'm trying to figure out why they succeed whilst I don't.
Those of you that reports success are you talking about raw files edited in Capture NX2 (the program that I use) or View NX2 (a very different and not as competent program)?
When I import the files they show up in its virgin state in the "import" window but as soon as they have been imported they are scrambled. As I haven't done any changes in CP preferences it might be that some changes has to be made but I have no clue as to what needs to be changed. Anyone with ideas?0 -
[quote="HvTFoto" wrote:
Those of you that reports success are you talking about raw files edited in Capture NX2 (the program that I use) or View NX2 (a very different and not as competent program)?
For me, I was definitely referring to Capture NX2 edited images generated by D200, D700 and D800E cameras.
Over the years I have dealt with many thousands of CNX2 edited NEF images and the number of corrupt files (for whatever reason) has been very few (less than ten?). Apart from NEFs created using CNX2 from TIFFs, COP has read and edited all I have attempted.
Good luck.
Regards0 -
[quote="petharnz" wrote:
For me, I was definitely referring to Capture NX2 edited images generated by D200, D700 and D800E cameras.
Over the years I have dealt with many thousands of CNX2 edited NEF images and the number of corrupt files (for whatever reason) has been very few (less than ten?). Apart from NEFs created using CNX2 from TIFFs, COP has read and edited all I have attempted.
Thanks. You're lucky. I ain't. I have now tried everything that I can think off (reset the files in Capture NX2, imported to NX-D and reset) to no avail. I could of course convert all edited NEF's into dng (that works) but since I have several thousands of edited nef's that's to much of a hazzle.
//Hans0
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