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Michael Sonshine
I sometimes find that I have a little trouble controlling the adjustment sliders precisely enough to get the exact value I want. For example when I try to use the Angle slider of the Rotation And Flip adjustments to level the horizon I find it difficult to get the exact value I want. I know I can enter a value, but I don't know what that value should be until I see it in the image. I also know that there is a horizon line I can draw, but often I do not have a clear horizon to use. I am using the Angle slider only as an example as there are many more controls with which I have the same issue.

Some adjustment software I have used allow me to use the left and right arrow keys to move the sliders one way or the other, but that does not seem to work in C1 (unless there is some other key to hold when doing it). Is there any way to incrementally move the sliders to change the settings? Or is just moving the thumb on the slider the only way to do that?

Thank you.
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  • SFA
    Mike,

    Using Windows if a tool has a numeric value field visible I can click on the field to make it active and then use a mouse scroll wheel (or in my case a pseudo scroll wheel effect on the touchpad) to adjust the numeric value. This also works if I start with the cursor positioned over the slider itself.

    I assume there is something at least similar for a Mac.

    Alternatively have a look at Preferences > Commands > Shortcuts where you should see some default keyboard based fine adjustment definitions and you can define you own key combinations for those you most need that do not have anything predefined or set up your own re-definitions of any that are defined that you would prefer to re-allocate.

    The save the new preferences as your personal set or preferences.

    In fact could create a different set of preference for different tasks should that suit you best and then change them according to what you are doing at the time.

    HTH.



    Grant
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  • paintbox
    This may sound a little too OCD but....
    I use a spirit level on my monitor for calibration. Then use the mouseover on the level tool.
    This usually gives me accurate levels on horizons.
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  • Michael Sonshine
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    Mike,

    Using Windows if a tool has a numeric value field visible I can click on the field to make it active and then use a mouse scroll wheel (or in my case a pseudo scroll wheel effect on the touchpad) to adjust the numeric value. This also works if I start with the cursor positioned over the slider itself.

    I assume there is something at least similar for a Mac.

    I am working on a MacBook Pro with a TrackPad and so have no mouse. There are "scroll" equivalent finger movements that are supposed to mimic the scroll wheel on a mouse, but they do not do anything to change the values in the adjustment windows. I have selected the numeric value and, of course, can change it, but it will not change with any finger movement that I have tried and I believe I have tried them all.

    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    Mike,
    Alternatively have a look at Preferences > Commands > Shortcuts where you should see some default keyboard based fine adjustment definitions and you can define you own key combinations for those you most need that do not have anything predefined or set up your own re-definitions of any that are defined that you would prefer to re-allocate.

    The save the new preferences as your personal set or preferences.

    In fact could create a different set of preference for different tasks should that suit you best and then change them according to what you are doing at the time.

    There is no Preferences -> Commands -> Shortcuts on my MBP. There is a CaptureOne -> Edit Keyboard Shortcuts and I am assuming that is what you are referring to. I already have my own set of shortcuts defined for my use.

    The main selections in the Edit Keyboard Shortcuts dialog box are Command, File, Edit, View, Adjustments, Image, Camera, Window, Scripts, Help, Shortcuts and Filters. The first group seem to refer to the UI command pull-downs and there was nothing under Adjustments that had what I needed. However I did find Rotation under Shortcuts and was able to define some key commands that work with level. They will only work with Rotation and are not general numeric value scroll commands. That is, they will not allow me to change something like the Exposure or Contrast or any other slider, only Rotation.

    Well, how about that. I had just finished writing a couple of paragraphs explaining how I had thought that the left and right arrow keys would have allowed me to change the numeric values, but did not, and how disappointing that all is when, just before closing C1, I tried the up and down arrow keys. Much to my surprise the values in the Rotate numeric window changed. The image did not rotate, but the value changed. I was curious enough to try the up and down arrow keys in other numeric windows and they all worked, but the Rotate did not. I assumed that that was because I had set up specific key shortcuts so I went back, removed the key shortcuts for the Rotate command and tried it again and now it works for that as well.

    So it was there all along. I just never tried the up and down, only the left and right. Live and Learn.

    Thanks for your help. Without your response I would probably not have sat down again and tried all of this stuff and not found the right thing.
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  • SFA
    Hi Mike,

    Glad you found a solution to your need.

    I love the idea of personalising software - up to a point.

    However, as we probably all find from time to time, it can be more confusing than helpful without an intimate knowledge of how the personalisation is achieved. That knowledge is not something we generally have in our experience. Only the developers (maybe - not guaranteed I found when I was deeply involved with large scale software development!) and some people whose work requires them to be deeply involved with the mechanics of an application are likely to have the full understanding and keep it refreshed as time passes.

    All of that assumes that the devices we choose to use - keyboard, mouse, graphics tablet or whatever, also consistently follow the same protocols.

    The potential for confusion is significant.

    For example if you want to scroll an adjustment value you can do so, as you have discovered, by making the number field window "active". If using the number field window to scroll using the keyboard (at least on Windows) holding the Shift key down will make the adjustment step larger, typically by a factor of 10. (Things can be a little more involved when the adjustment values involve decimal places or large numbers such as the Kelvin values for White Balance.)

    If using a mouse together with the scroll bar one can simply click on the position on the bar related to the value required (or approximate to it) and then refine the setting with the "scroll wheel" or equivalent. The nature of the mouse with its ability to click directly on a required value position makes the need for differential scroll rates (i.e.e using Shift + Arrow key on the keyboard) somewhat pointless, thus saving some the need for additional complexity.

    Just my thoughts on the subject,



    Grant
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