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Separate Browser Window

David P
I had asked about this a few years ago and was told it was to be coming.

When can we expect to be able to browse in a second monitor in a window separate from the raw processor, like we can in DXO 9 and Lightroom? Having the browser taking up valuable screen estate in one window is getting very long in the tooth, and is making CO7 Pro less competitive.
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  • Drew Altdo
    You can do this with a separate Viewer window.
    Hide everything but the Browser on one window, show everything on the other window and put the appropriate one on the second monitor.
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  • SFA
    Have you tried the "Dual Monitor" Workspace preset? I think that is basically what Drew was referring to. You can, of course, tailor the screens to your own personal preferences.

    I tend to work on a single screen most of the time. Silly I know, but it works for me. I do use the f10 key quite frequently to invoke the separate large viewer when required. It would of course works better when I am using a second screen.


    HTH.



    Grant
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  • David P
    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough with the problem. I want to view the browser thumbnails on one monitor, so when I select the one to edit it will be full screen on the other monitor in edit mode a la Lightroom 5 and DXO 9 Pro. I can't find any way to do this. Dual monitor mode shows me a full screen view of what I am working on in a separate window, with the other monitor window displaying the browser in the editor. I want the browser on one screen, and the editor on the other.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="NN300458UL" wrote:
    I want the browser on one screen, and the editor on the other.

    This is what the dual monitor options does, as far as I understand. You can have two windows of CO7, and your place each of them on their respective monitor.
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  • Wade Oram
    My understanding was that the OP wanted to use a window on each of two monitors - one containing just the browser and the other containing both the viewer and the tools.

    I can't find a way of doing exactly this. I can certainly get two windows - but I can not separate the tools from the browser. Thus I have one window with browser and tools and a second window with only the viewer. The second windows does not have any options to enable the tools view (or for that matter, the browser).
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  • SFA
    [quote="Wade" wrote:
    My understanding was that the OP wanted to use a window on each of two monitors - one containing just the browser and the other containing both the viewer and the tools.

    I can't find a way of doing exactly this. I can certainly get two windows - but I can not separate the tools from the browser. Thus I have one window with browser and tools and a second window with only the viewer. The second windows does not have any options to enable the tools view (or for that matter, the browser).


    I'm not sure I understand the OPs particular needs or indeed the basis for the critique other than that C1 does not work in the same way that a couple of other programs do. I think a specific description of how changes to the options would offer advantages would be a more creative approach than just suggesting C1 is "uncompetitive". Based on such a description the designers might come up with something revolutionary.

    But I think Wade is correct ion that running with 2 screens does not allow easy 'tuning' of each window to suit any purpose - mainly because the tools stay with what becomes the Browser window in Dual Screen mode.

    Personally I don't have a problem with that but I could see that being able to open 2 fully functional screens with tools on either and one dedicated to the View and the other to the browser might have some benefits.

    At the moment the only solution I can see to the tool problem (if one sees the separate physical monitors as 2 distinct screens rather than a large desktop) would be to create one or more floating tools and position those where they are best suited for use. That might be OK for one or two tools but not so great for large numbers.

    A "custom" tool tab that could float as a whole item might be helpful.

    I have not tried this for a while but another idea would be to think of the entire screen "real estate" as a single desk top and set one window (presumably the browser window with the tools attached) to extend into the other screen.

    However this still uses up screen estate in the viewer screen - as does the floating tool idea to some extent.

    On those occasions where I do work on 2 screens I tend to work with the viewer on one screen and the tools (with or without worrying about the browser) on the other.

    I assume one could spread the viewer window over a larger part of the desktop as well but I'm not sure that would be a great idea unless working with matching screens. (From a GPU and driver point of view).


    My thoughts for what they are worth.


    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Wade" wrote:
    My understanding was that the OP wanted to use a window on each of two monitors - one containing just the browser and the other containing both the viewer and the tools.

    I can't find a way of doing exactly this. I can certainly get two windows - but I can not separate the tools from the browser. Thus I have one window with browser and tools and a second window with only the viewer. The second windows does not have any options to enable the tools view (or for that matter, the browser).

    I looked into this again after the post above by user Wade. User Wade gave me the wake-up call. Thank you, Wade.

    What Wade describes is probably a correct interpretation of the OP. In addition, I discovered that it is possible on CO7/Mac, but not on CO7/Windows.

    To elaborate, let us first enumerate the screen components of CO7 interface:
    - browser
    - tool
    - viewer (a.k.a. preview)
    All these components exist in the main program windows and can be arranged, hidden etc. to great extend and saved (known as workspace).

    On both Win and Mac you can open a second window, called the Viewer. You can place each window (main and Viewer) on independently on any monitor you have connected to your system. Now for the difference:
    - the Viewer window on Mac can have the tools (hidden/shown, auto-mode, left/right)
    - the Viewer window on Windows can not have the tools
    The browser is not available in either Viewer window, but that is not the point.

    I will record the issue of missing tools in the Viewer window as an alignment bug with Phase One.
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  • SFA
    Good work Paul.


    Slightly off-topic ....

    Is there a preferred way to make requests related to differences in functionality between Operating Systems?

    I can understand that sometimes this is unavoidable (unless one does not release a feature if it is not available on both OS options) but there must be other situations where an oversight has occurred and a request would be a useful reminder.

    As an example I seem to recall there is a difference for the Sharpening Tool functionality when used in a Local Adjustment layer too. This was still outstanding at 7.1.6. I have yet to upgrade to 7.2.2 but I am going to guess that it will not yet be different.

    It would be good to get them aligned.


    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Grant,

    You can report any issue through a support case, whether it is an alignment issue or not.

    The Sharpening on layer issue for Windows is still not fixed in 7.2.2.
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  • SFA
    Paul

    True about creating a report but, having run a developer's software support (among other things) some year ago I never like to duplicate acknowledged problems! It is not necessarily helpful. However to be able to flag a quick reminder and add to the 'interested parties' list can be useful for corrective planning purposes.

    As I recall the Sharpening tool discrepancy was acknowledged quite some time back. It would be nice to see the OS versions aligned - or notification of the continuing discrepancy if alignment is not feasible for some reason. However, I don't personally see it as important enough for my needs to take up 15 mins of someone's time to assess the report if a simple "memory jog" would achieve the same result for a known issue if there is a mechanism to make that 'jog' happen.

    I would guess that the Dual Screen anomaly may also have been recorded at some point in the past. But I assume that it is possible there may be a technical reason for that one given the less controlled hardware environment that Windows machines "enjoy".

    Is there, for example, a Known Differences list somewhere? (Other than some notes in the Help Files.)

    It might be good to have these days if only for avoiding confusion!


    Grant
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