Sorry to say, but bye ...
After a couple weeks of very frustrating attempts to do simple things in EM2, I've decided to pull the plug. The way to accomplish so many things is so arcane, it stymies any efforts by a non-computer-geek person to use the program. And when I logged on this morning, the top EM forum topic included an experienced user finding that there was a way to select this and double-click that and go here to do X that HE hadn't heard or known of.
For a "noob" in this program, it simply requires too many weeks of study to be able to barely function in it. And that includes having both edition of Krogh's "DAM" books, and a copy of an old iVIEW user guide also.
I know the program is highly regarded by many whom I respect, yet ... it's not for most of us working pros who have to simply get stuff done NOW and don't have a staff to sick on such a project, or keep the rest of the business running while we spend a month figuring out how to find all the image files shot in one year.
Best wishes on bringing out a newer version, and improving the usability for non-geek time-harried folk like me!
Sincerely,
Neil
For a "noob" in this program, it simply requires too many weeks of study to be able to barely function in it. And that includes having both edition of Krogh's "DAM" books, and a copy of an old iVIEW user guide also.
I know the program is highly regarded by many whom I respect, yet ... it's not for most of us working pros who have to simply get stuff done NOW and don't have a staff to sick on such a project, or keep the rest of the business running while we spend a month figuring out how to find all the image files shot in one year.
Best wishes on bringing out a newer version, and improving the usability for non-geek time-harried folk like me!
Sincerely,
Neil
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I'm sorry to see that my assisting another user has been the trigger for you to abandon ship. ☹️
I guess I've grown up with the program, having been with it since the iView Multimedia days. But one of my mottos has always been "read the manual". I know that MS dropped the manual (as they have done with all their software) when they purchased IVMP, but the IVMP 3 manuals are still almost completely relevant and can be downloaded from .
Interestingly, two of my friends (not computer geeks) have recently been persuaded by me to try out EM2 for managing their image collections, and both soon became firm converts. I must admit that they were probably assisted by observing how I used the program, and I gave them both copies of the IVMP 3 manual.while we spend a month figuring out how to find all the image files shot in one year
Organise Panel, Catalogue Fields, Date Finder, click on button to right of 2009! Can't think of anything much easier. That's what we're here for, to help and learn from each other.0 -
Hi Neil,
What are you using now that you find is working good enough?
I am happy to try new "sollutions", but so far have not wrapped my head around this and I am a Tech!
But maybe thats the problem, that I know how to work with my folders and organize them? Or just not understanding the catalogue concept....Same way I never liked sessions, and C1 recognizes this and allows the file folders...thank goodness!
Maybe placing a folder view in EM would solve some confusion?
The main advantage for me has been to view the RAW adjustments in the thumbnail viewers like Bridge sees ACR.
I was under the impression that EM would not only see C1, but also ACR....but that isn't the case. It doesn't see ACR adjustments.0 -
[quote="Raffi3" wrote:
Maybe placing a folder view in EM would solve some confusion?
Placing a folder view in EM would introduce confusion.
The big advantage of EM is that you get away from the single-attribute indexing system imposed by a folder system. Instead EM allows you to have a multi-attribute indexing system where you can manage your digital assets in a multitude of different ways. Folders no longer have any significance in an EM based management system. All your images could be just sequentially numbered files in the one big folder for all EM cares (except that's not a good idea from a computer operating system point of view).
Instead, with just one or two clicks, you can instantly locate all images with a given date or year or month or keyword or location or city or state or country or rating or person's name et-cetera. With a couple of clicks you can filter by intersections or unions of attributes e.g. all images of Bill AND Ben in city Sydney in 2009 OR 2010.
This aspect of forgetting folder based organisation is the biggest hurdle faced by new users coming to EM. You'll find more about the subject in some of my more recent post to other topics. See .0 -
Maybe placing a folder view in EM would solve some confusion?
Neil there is a folder view and there is nothing wrong with using it to locate items. iView/xMedia/Media Pro all offer multiple ways to visually search for items. Think of the image you want to find: do you recall roughly the date shot, the camera, location, or a keyword you may have entered? As Dave said you can use combinations of these to further winnow down your selection. When you are left with a few hundred scan through the thumbnails and voila! You found your image.
Catalogs offer more benefits not the least of which is data security. . Media Pro can tell you when images have gone missing and you need to restore from back up. It will find the images that don't have your copyright info.
'The DAM Book: Digital Asset Management for Photographers' is a really good step by step guide.
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