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One Aperture Library - Two User Collections

streetcore
Hi,

I just did a trial import from Aperture to C1 on a new iMac. I followed the advice in Derrick Story's eBook "Moving to Capture One" and created a test library with 36 images including raw files, jpegs, one layered tiff, and one psd file. I know C1 does not support psd, but I have a lot in my Aperture library and wanted to see how C1 handles them.

The import went smoothly and as expected I got a notification that one unsupported file was not imported. However, when I looked at the User Collections I noticed two were created. One is called "Test Library" with no images in it and the other is called "Test Library 1" with 35 images.

Is this normal? If I import my entire Aperture library with lots of unsupported files will I get a bunch of different User Collections? Should I do anything differently to prepare my library for import into C1?

Thanks.
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  • Eric Nepean
    You won't be able to edit anything about the unsupported files - even metadata, and you can't search for them - you either want to convert them into TIFFS or JPEGs or decide to use another tool to manage them.

    If you have hierarchical keywords they will not be imported correctly, and they will be hard to manage. Better to make these changes in Aperture, best to convert to non-hierarchical keywords.

    Version names will be dropped as you got to C1. If you have any version names, you should decide what to do about those before you import to C1.
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  • streetcore
    Thanks for the advice. Any idea why two User Collections were created and one was empty? Is that normal when unsupported files are imported?

    I have 1500+ psd files in Aperture and don't want to remove them from my library or convert all of them to tiffs. So I'm just concerned that when I import my complete library I'll have a bunch of different User Collections to sort out.
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  • Eric Nepean
    [quote="streetcore" wrote:
    Thanks for the advice. Any idea why two User Collections were created and one was empty? Is that normal when unsupported files are imported?

    Sorry I've no idea, that didn't happen when I did my Aperture import.

    I have 1500+ psd files in Aperture and don't want to remove them from my library or convert all of them to tiffs. So I'm just concerned that when I import my complete library I'll have a bunch of different User Collections to sort out.

    I see it as more significant that you will have 1500+ images that you will be able to view only - you won't be able to crop them, export them, add a keyword, change the title or any part of the metadata.

    The presence of unsupported images is always the first question raised when Capture One runs too slow.

    C1 runs brilliantly with with under 1000 images. As you approach 10000 images you will start to see slow downs.
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  • streetcore
    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:

    I see it as more significant that you will have 1500+ images that you will be able to view only - you won't be able to crop them, export them, add a keyword, change the title or any part of the metadata.

    I'm confused. Are you able to view psd files in C1? I didn't think they were supported at all. The psd file in my test library was not imported and I can't import them using File>Import Images either. I'd actually be very happy if I could at least see them in C1.

    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:

    C1 runs brilliantly with with under 1000 images. As you approach 10000 images you will start to see slow downs.

    Are you talking about sessions or catalogs? I have about 60,000 referenced images in my Aperture library and thought C1 could easily handle catalogues with many more images than this.
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  • Eric Nepean
    [quote="streetcore" wrote:
    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:

    I see it as more significant that you will have 1500+ images that you will be able to view only - you won't be able to crop them, export them, add a keyword, change the title or any part of the metadata.

    I'm confused. Are you able to view psd files in C1? I didn't think they were supported at all. The psd file in my test library was not imported and I can't import them using File>Import Images either. I'd actually be very happy if I could at least see them in C1.]

    I had 1 or 2 PSD files - can't remember if I could see them or not. Other unsupported file types like JPEGS smaller than 512 are visible but not editable.

    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:

    C1 runs brilliantly with with under 1000 images. As you approach 10000 images you will start to see slow downs.

    Are you talking about sessions or catalogs? I have about 60,000 referenced images in my Aperture library and thought C1 could easily handle catalogues with many more images than this.


    I'm talking images. My Aperture library was about 20000 referenced images.
    With COP8, the catalog became unusable over 10,000 images due to extreme slowness. In COP9.2.1 with a new iMac and newly imported catalog, the extreme slowness (>60s per click) occurs whenever the Filter tool is active, otherwise OK. COP have referred issue back to engineering, but suggestions from C1 have been remove all TIFFs, remove all CR2 type raw files, put all files on an SSD, buy a MacPro. I have tried removing TIFFS, but not CR2s.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:


    I'm talking images. My Aperture library was about 20000 referenced images.
    With COP8, the catalog became unusable over 10,000 images due to extreme slowness. In COP9.2.1 with a new iMac and newly imported catalog, the extreme slowness (>60s per click) occurs whenever the Filter tool is active, otherwise OK. COP have referred issue back to engineering, but suggestions from C1 have been remove all TIFFs, remove all CR2 type raw files, put all files on an SSD, buy a MacPro. I have tried removing TIFFS, but not CR2s.


    I have about 17000 referenced files in my library/catalog, with many types of format (CR2, jpeg, TIFF, dng,...) and I never ever encountered any problem of management, slowness.
    I have just a MacBook Pro 15" Retina, and my files are on an external HDD. And my filter tool is always active. So, ❓
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  • streetcore
    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:
    suggestions from C1 have been remove all TIFFs, remove all CR2 type raw files, put all files on an SSD, buy a MacPro. I have tried removing TIFFS, but not CR2s.


    That's very concerning since my Aperture library contains 60,000 images, including a lot of CR2 files. I was also planning on converting many of the unsupported PSD files to TIFF. Maybe I need to take another look at Lightroom. 😕
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  • streetcore
    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:

    I'm talking images. My Aperture library was about 20000 referenced images.

    Do you remember how long it took to import your Aperture library into C1? If I'm going to attempt the import I'd like to know roughly how long it's going take.
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  • Eric Nepean
    For 20000 images into Cop9.2.1 I think the import is under an hour on a late 2015 iMac with an i7.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:
    For 20000 images into Cop9.2.1 I think the import is under an hour on a late 2015 iMac with an i7.


    Quite fast !! It took a night to import and create previews of my about 15000 files from my Lightroom catalog a year ago.
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