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Capture One has no color calibration

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I have been using Capture one for some years now and I still miss a way to calibrate the color of my pictures. I know Capture One comes with color profiles for most of the cameras used on the market but this is very far from doing a good job in calibration because is not taking into account what kind of light you have. Every tungsten bulb has its own color temperature, even the walls of the studio can shift the color , so you cannot be sure of your calibration not even shooting with Profoto flash lights.
When you use other programs like Photoshop or Light Room you can always use a 3 company calibration programs like Color Passport from Xrite (and many others) that can create a color profile for THAT particular session you are about to have and where everything is going to be considered (studio, lights and camera)

How can you get a color profile in capture one that is as precise as those made by a color target like Color Passport??

Thanks

Ricky
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  • Drew Altdo
    Ricky,
    Create an ICC profile and then select it from the Base Characteristics field under the "ICC Profile" menu.
    http://i41.tinypic.com/qx0yds.png
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  • NNN634526294230596693
    Obviously Color Passport dosent create ICC profiles, only DNGs and C1 cannot use them (what a pitty)

    Can you recomment a good aplication to create a ICC profiles from a target as accurate as Color Passport does DNG profiles?

    Thanks

    Ricky
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  • nggalai
    There’s multiple choices, arguably the best by XRite (ProfileMaker) and basICColor (Input, not Display as originally posted). You’ll still need a good target, which costs extra, and keep in mind ICC camera profiles work differently from Passport’s / ACR’s camera profiles – said profiles are optimised to plug into a “pure†RGB workflow but CMYK is difficult, ICC is more versatile but less, well, robust. There’s a reason Lightroom hasn’t shipped with a softproof option until version 5, and doesn’t support CMYK or other subtractive color models for proofing.

    If your shots deviate from what you’ve profiled for (camera+lens+light situation) there’s often more lee-way with Adobe’s DNG profiles than with standard ICC profiles, unless you invest as much time into tweaking the ICC profile as Phase One does when creating the default camera profiles. Which is, I guess, a lot of effort and know-how.

    If you shoot under controlled lighting most of the time I’d say it can be worth the effort (and time and money) to invest into an ICC profiling solution as mentioned above. But it’s hard to generate better “universal†camera profiles for Capture One than are already provided.

    YMMV.

    Cheers,
    -Sascha

    Edit: If you have the nerve, and the odd ColorChecker lying around your studio, you could give Argyll CMS a shot. It’s OSS freeware, but figuring out what settings might be usable for your specific use case alone can take hours. Also, switch your lens, or deal with an ageing flood light or flash, and you’ll probably have to reprofile. Still, it could give you an idea of how difficult it is to generate great camera ICC profiles.
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  • NNN634526294230596693
    Hi Sascha, thanks for your reply,
    Well, XRite (ProfileMaker) is discontinued and basICColor is for displays so none will help much.
    My case is not a display issue. Actually my work I so demanding about capturing perfect color that I will never dare to even trust my eyes in any moment. I could work the same with a non-calibrated or very cheap monitor. I need an easy and straightforward process to get a profile without monitor calibration at all. I found this with dng profiles and It worked very well. My pictures are OK but then I have to leave Capture One out of the workflow which I must say is very sad because I love this programme.
    My workflow now is :
    Get a picture with the passport target
    Create a dng profile
    Shoot my session with the same lights, camera lens and so on as my profile
    Use Adobe Camera Raw with that particular profile to download the pictures.
    All my jpg pictures are now perfect and I can send then to a web site o whatever is necessary with the confidence that they have perfect color.
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    I need something like that but using Capture One instead Camera Raw!!!!
    Please, you have the best software in the market! Don’t tell me you cannot have something that is absolutely necessary for professional.

    Ricky
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  • alain assier
    At Xrite the solutions of profile icc exist but are very dear(expensive), to buy a charter and make execute a profile by a person receiving benefits(provider) is also a solution, exemple . For Basiccolor the solution for the calibration of case is available here and very effective. 😉
    Bonne journée
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  • nggalai
    [quote="NNN634526294230596693" wrote:
    Hi Sascha, thanks for your reply,
    Well, XRite (ProfileMaker) is discontinued and basICColor is for displays so none will help much.


    Ah, thanks for the correction – it’s basiCColor INPUT, not Display. Sorry about the confusion. I’ll correct my post above.

    Cheers,
    -Sascha
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  • Grant Kernan
    I agree,
    That the profiles could be improved.
    When Shooting art work I use Pictocolor's "In Camera" software and I make a brand new profile for each lighting change in the studio. If you choose embed profile in C1 it works well. Unfortunately you will need to shoot your chart and make the profile in CS5 as the plugin is only supported in 32 bit. The other downside to the ICC approach is that it is very much exposure dependant, In Camera profiles are not much good with product shots and graduated backgrounds.
    With those set ups I believe that Integrated Colors's Camera profiling software will be better suited.
    Both are pricy and I use both.
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