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not-so-smart album

markalanthomas
Why doesn’t this result in a smart album which displays only those photos shot in 2015?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1821533/not-so-smart-album.png
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  • SFA
    What result does it give?
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  • alessandro ceccnoi
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    Why doesn’t this result in a smart album which displays only those photos shot in 2015?

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1821533/not-so-smart-album.png


    maybe you have no photos tagged 2015?
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  • Jim_DK
    Can you provide a grab of the album position in the library?
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  • SFA
    It works for me using a session and Windows 7.

    So I would expect it to also work on a Mac.

    Grant
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  • markalanthomas
    If I tag the images with the keyword “2015†then the smart album works. But shouldn’t this be pulling the year out of the existing metadata? The files know they were shot in 2015.
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  • SFA
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    If I tag the images with the keyword “2015†then the smart album works. But shouldn’t this be pulling the year out of the existing metadata? The files know they were shot in 2015.


    If you go to the library tab and then open up the filters you should see the automatically populated date filters (I assume).

    What can you see there?

    What sort of image files are you working with?


    Grant
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  • markalanthomas
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    If I tag the images with the keyword “2015†then the smart album works. But shouldn’t this be pulling the year out of the existing metadata? The files know they were shot in 2015.


    If you go to the library tab and then open up the filters you should see the automatically populated date filters (I assume).

    What can you see there?

    What sort of image files are you working with?


    Grant


    According to Date filters in the Library tab, I have 1763 photos — DNGs from a Leica M — from 2015. If I click the ellipsis next to the Search field to save the search, I get this:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1821533/not-so-smart-search.png

    Note: It’s the same thing I created manually, only Capture One is telling me that, even though I have the 2015 filter selected, it’s searching on the date “2014â€. Absurdly, the results it’s showing me are, in fact, from 2015.

    What.

    The photos do not have either “2014†or “2015†tagged as keywords.
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  • markalanthomas
    The previous screenshot got cropped by the forum software, so I’m posting another for clarity.

    You can see here that Capture One is showing results for 2014, but in the previous screenshot you can clearly see that I’m filtering for 2015.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1821533/not-so-smart-eh%3F.png

    Okay, if I have to tag all these photos “2015†and search based on the “2015†keyword, I will, but shouldn’t this be working properly?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Jim_DK" wrote:
    Can you provide a grab of the album position in the library?

    I quote here as it seems the OP has not responded to Jim's question.

    To emphasise, you might accidentally create a smart album inside a Project, for example. This can affect what is shown in the smart album as a Project is a search boundary.

    Creating a smart album like the OP did in the root level hierarchy of my User Collections (no Groups or Projects) works fine. That would be my first tip to test.
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  • SFA
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    The previous screenshot got cropped by the forum software, so I’m posting another for clarity.

    You can see here that Capture One is showing results for 2014, but in the previous screenshot you can clearly see that I’m filtering for 2015.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1821533/not-so-smart-eh%3F.png

    Okay, if I have to tag all these photos “2015†and search based on the “2015†keyword, I will, but shouldn’t this be working properly?


    Unusual.

    Keywords should not some into this at all.

    If you look at the metadata on the images selected what date do you see?


    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    It is not about keywords. The Date-Year search term is looking in the EXIF of the image. When the OP has filtered for 2014, no 2015 images will show as the search works on top of the filter.

    Still wandering what happens when the OP responds to my previous post on the position, quoting JimDK.
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  • markalanthomas
    Seems it’s about as top level as it can get:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1821533/smart-album-location.png

    Notice, too, that although it’s searching for “2015†photos, it’s actually displaying photos from 2016 (and yes, I double-checked the metadata and keywords). It gets weirder. If I change it so that it’s searching for 2014, it shows results for 2013! And if I then edit the smart album, I find 2013 in the criteria field. It spontaneously changes after I Save.

    I finally got the 2015 smart album to show results for 2015 by changing it to 2014, which searched for 2013, and then changing it back to 2015.

    However, if I then create a new smart album to display photos for another year, the craziness begins anew.

    I think I’ll just keyword the dates into my photos and move on.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    I suggest you look into the Metadata tool, look at Basic > Date. I believe that the search is looking for that piece of information and not for keywords. If your camera clock is behind, it will be recorded accordingly in the Date field I mentioned.
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  • markalanthomas
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    I suggest you look into the Metadata tool, look at Basic > Date. I believe that the search is looking for that piece of information and not for keywords. If your camera clock is behind, it will be recorded accordingly in the Date field I mentioned.


    The metadata is correct, and my photos weren’t keyworded with dates anyway. I did, however, just select 1192 photos from 2016 and attempted to add the keyword “2016†to them. Capture One is telling me that this is going to take 15 minutes. Mind you, this would be done in about a second in Lightroom. What is going on here? Do I have a corrupt catalog?
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  • SFA
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    I suggest you look into the Metadata tool, look at Basic > Date. I believe that the search is looking for that piece of information and not for keywords. If your camera clock is behind, it will be recorded accordingly in the Date field I mentioned.


    The metadata is correct, and my photos weren’t keyworded with dates anyway. I did, however, just select 1192 photos from 2016 and attempted to add the keyword “2016†to them. Capture One is telling me that this is going to take 15 minutes. Mind you, this would be done in about a second in Lightroom. What is going on here? Do I have a corrupt catalog?


    I think you have a clear problem of some sort.

    Try running the verification process to see what happens.


    Grant
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  • markalanthomas
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    I suggest you look into the Metadata tool, look at Basic > Date. I believe that the search is looking for that piece of information and not for keywords. If your camera clock is behind, it will be recorded accordingly in the Date field I mentioned.


    The metadata is correct, and my photos weren’t keyworded with dates anyway. I did, however, just select 1192 photos from 2016 and attempted to add the keyword “2016†to them. Capture One is telling me that this is going to take 15 minutes. Mind you, this would be done in about a second in Lightroom. What is going on here? Do I have a corrupt catalog?


    I think you have a clear problem of some sort.

    Try running the verification process to see what happens.


    Grant


    “Database Verification Okayâ€.

    Do you suppose it would be worth the effort to create a new catalog and import my old one into it, or would this just bring any corruption along for the ride?
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  • Grant Hodgeon
    Submit a bug report and hope to hell the next minor release fixes it, and if it doesn't, scratch your head and submit another bug report.

    Rinse and repeat until at some point you've given up trying to fix the bug, and you work around it. Then before you know it, the bugs fixed and you're over it.

    This is the life of working with Capture One.
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  • markalanthomas
    [quote="photoGrant" wrote:
    Submit a bug report and hope to hell the next minor release fixes it, and if it doesn't, scratch your head and submit another bug report.

    Rinse and repeat until at some point you've given up trying to fix the bug, and you work around it. Then before you know it, the bugs fixed and you're over it.

    This is the life of working with Capture One.


    Not for me. If they were paying me, I’d submit bug reports. I’ll try Capture One again in a year.
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  • SFA
    [quote="markalanthomas" wrote:
    [quote="photoGrant" wrote:
    Submit a bug report and hope to hell the next minor release fixes it, and if it doesn't, scratch your head and submit another bug report.

    Rinse and repeat until at some point you've given up trying to fix the bug, and you work around it. Then before you know it, the bugs fixed and you're over it.

    This is the life of working with Capture One.


    Not for me. If they were paying me, I’d submit bug reports. I’ll try Capture One again in a year.


    Ah, but they can't pay you AND offer free technical support.

    Still, it's your call of course.
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