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Is it possible to amend the date in the meta data?

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I'm scanning a bunch of old family photos and importing them into C1 v12. When I import the photos the date is not appearing in C1. If I go to the image in Finder it is displaying the date it was scanned. I'd like to amend the date anyway to reflect the date the photo was taken, not scanned. Any thoughts on how to achieve this?
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  • mli20
    It has been discussed in these fora quite often.

    Best thing to do is search.

    MLI
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="mli20" wrote:
    It has been discussed in these fora quite often.

    Best thing to do is search.

    MLI


    I spent an hour searching this forum and found nothing about changing the date in the metadata. Search results for "change metadata" "metadata" "metadata date" "change date" where not relevant. I've also read through https://help.phaseone.com/en/CO12/Organ ... adata.aspx which did not answer my question.
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  • Benjamin Liddle
    It is not possible. Fundamentally, Capture One treats source files as read-only and cannot alter the EXIF data.
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  • mli20
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    [quote="mli20" wrote:
    It has been discussed in these fora quite often.

    Best thing to do is search.

    MLI


    I spent an hour searching this forum and found nothing about changing the date in the metadata. Search results for "change metadata" "metadata" "metadata date" "change date" where not relevant. I've also read through https://help.phaseone.com/en/CO12/Organ ... adata.aspx which did not answer my question.

    I did say fora (plural), not forum (singular)

    Searching the software fora in one go yields 6 answers. It's for you to decide which if any are relevant to you.

    Meanwhile I believe you need to tell which "metadata date" you are talking about? Of course it must be an existing field, since if not it can't be amended. And also, where is this named field to be found, in C1 or in Finder?

    MLI
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  • Emile Gregoire
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    I'm scanning a bunch of old family photos and importing them into C1 v12. When I import the photos the date is not appearing in C1. If I go to the image in Finder it is displaying the date it was scanned. I'd like to amend the date anyway to reflect the date the photo was taken, not scanned. Any thoughts on how to achieve this?


    You could try Photo Mechanic for instance. It’ll even allow you to change dates and times within certain types of RAW image files (not that I advocate doing that). http://www.camerabits.com

    It’s not free though. I’m sure there are other software packages out there that’ll do the same for less, but I like the combination of Photo Mechanic and Capture One for a nice and speedy workflow.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Emile" wrote:
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    I'm scanning a bunch of old family photos and importing them into C1 v12. When I import the photos the date is not appearing in C1. If I go to the image in Finder it is displaying the date it was scanned. I'd like to amend the date anyway to reflect the date the photo was taken, not scanned. Any thoughts on how to achieve this?


    You could try Photo Mechanic for instance. It’ll even allow you to change dates and times within certain types of RAW image files (not that I advocate doing that). http://www.camerabits.com

    It’s not free though. I’m sure there are other software packages out there that’ll do the same for less, but I like the combination of Photo Mechanic and Capture One for a nice and speedy workflow.


    Awesome! Thank you.
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  • Emile Gregoire
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    [quote="Emile" wrote:
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    I'm scanning a bunch of old family photos and importing them into C1 v12. When I import the photos the date is not appearing in C1. If I go to the image in Finder it is displaying the date it was scanned. I'd like to amend the date anyway to reflect the date the photo was taken, not scanned. Any thoughts on how to achieve this?


    You could try Photo Mechanic for instance. It’ll even allow you to change dates and times within certain types of RAW image files (not that I advocate doing that). http://www.camerabits.com

    It’s not free though. I’m sure there are other software packages out there that’ll do the same for less, but I like the combination of Photo Mechanic and Capture One for a nice and speedy workflow.


    Awesome! Thank you.


    Welcome! If you don’t mind fiddling with a command line, you can also use ExifTool. Quite powerful and free, but like most things powerful and free, not the most easy to utilize. https://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
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  • Francis Mariani
    I did say fora (plural), not forum (singular)

    Searching the software fora in one go yields 6 answers. It's for you to decide which if any are relevant to you.

    blah... blah... blah...


    I don't know if everyone else considers this type of answer rude, but I do.

    If I was answering a question like this one, I may scold the person asking the question, but I would ALSO provide the links to the six answers I found.
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  • Francis Mariani
    Happy New Year!
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  • Marc Desimpelaere
    [quote="Francesco Mariani" wrote:
    I did say fora (plural), not forum (singular)

    Searching the software fora in one go yields 6 answers. It's for you to decide which if any are relevant to you.

    blah... blah... blah...


    I don't know if everyone else considers this type of answer rude, but I do.

    If I was answering a question like this one, I may scold the person asking the question, but I would ALSO provide the links to the six answers I found.


    I also agree that the answer was quite rude and not very helpful...
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  • mli20
    Please accept my apologies. I admit to being terse, bur no rudeness was intended.

    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:


    ...l out of asshole food


    You might wish to consider this:

    Forum Rule #4:

    "Don't use profanity in your postings..."

    Edited 13:48 UTC
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  • mli20
    [quote="Francesco Mariani" wrote:


    I don't know if everyone else considers this type of answer rude, but I do.


    Forum Rule #13

    "Do not post questions or comments relating to the appropriateness of another member's post. Phase One A/S is moderating this forum and this is up to Phase One A/S to judge this, Moderators while handle this not users."
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  • mli20
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    I'm scanning a bunch of old family photos and importing them into C1 v12. When I import the photos the date is not appearing in C1. If I go to the image in Finder it is displaying the date it was scanned. I'd like to amend the date anyway to reflect the date the photo was taken, not scanned. Any thoughts on how to achieve this?

    The following assumes that you have software available to you that can create a xmp sidecar for an imagefile. Said software must comprise this field in xmp:

    exif:DateTimeOriginal

    A number of apps will do this, but Capture One seems not to be one of them. I'd expect an app like FastStone to do it, but at this point you will need to verify that.

    A xmp sidecar file is a simple text file. Locate the aforementioned field and change the date to the date the photo was taken.

    If you have the COP Preferences/Image/Metadata/Auto Sync sidecar XMP/Prefer Sidecar XMP over embedded Metadata option checked, you will now see the date taken date you just entered into the xmp sidecar in the COP Metadata/Basic/Date field.

    This of course is based on my best understanding of what you wish to achieve.

    I tested the procedure with a sidecar created with Lightroom Classic CC. Worked like a charm..

    MLI
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  • Eric Valk
    [quote="anthony.s" wrote:
    I'm scanning a bunch of old family photos and importing them into C1 v12. When I import the photos the date is not appearing in C1. If I go to the image in Finder it is displaying the date it was scanned. I'd like to amend the date anyway to reflect the date the photo was taken, not scanned. Any thoughts on how to achieve this?


    I have two tools that will change EXIF information in files.

    One is the free EXIFtool application available from This is a command line tool that you run from Terminal, or connect to an AppleScript or an Application. There are quite a number of applications that use ExifTool to deal with Metadata; ExifTool is probably the most capable metadata editor available.

    Another is "A Better Finder Attributes" which costs money on the App store, but is not that expensive. It has a very nice CUI.

    Note the following comment on "A Better Finder Attributes":

    Please note that it is not possible under Mac OSX to change a file date to an inconsistant value.
    You cannot use dates in the future (later than now) and a file cannot     "have been" modified before it is created.

    I haven't explored how this affects dates in the file's Metadata, and how this is imported or reloaded by Capture One.

    There is a discussion in the scripting forum
    on an AppleScript to use EXIFtool to modify an image file's Metadata, and bring the new Metadata into Capture One.

    This script doesn't handle dates -- yet -- but it does eliminate much of the command line work. But you still have to get your hands a little dirty to learn some AppleScript and something about ExifTool if you want it to handle dates.
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  • Marc Desimpelaere
    Eric,

    what exiftool command would best be used to change date? I am still a little tossed on that: you can either change it as a new input or as an offset to the original date, but I am not sure what is the best procedure...
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  • Eric Valk
    [quote="Marc Desimpelaere" wrote:
    Eric,

    what exiftool command would best be used to change date? I am still a little tossed on that: you can either change it as a new input or as an offset to the original date, but I am not sure what is the best procedure...


    I think that it comes to knowing your purpose.

    If you want to change the date/time because of a time zone difference or camera setting error, then it makes a lot of sense to use the shift feature. Instead of re-entering each date & time (tedious and error prone) you can select a number of images, and apply the same shift to each.

    I have done this when synchronising images from a number of participants on an outing. Some had the camera date/time set for the wrong timezone, and they were usually a few minutes off true. The proceedure I followed was first to put each participant's images into the same time zone by shifting by hours. Then we had one particapant who never set the time on his camera. A really big shift to set his image dates right.

    Then sort all the images by date/time, and search (visually) for images that were taken simultaneously. Now apply a shift of minutes to bring sets of images into alignment.

    On the other hand, if an images time and date have been lost entirely, perhaps through image processing, then the absolute time setting, perhaps copied from another image, makes more sense, and a shift approach is unworkable.

    So - three use cases:
    1) Time shift of a set of images (aligning image sets from differeent cameras in time)
    2) Copy the time/date from another image, perhaps the source image. (processing has obliterated the time & date - e.g. multi image HDR)
    3) Absolute Time entry, e.g. for scanned images
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Thanks Eric,

    I did it for very old scanned negs (I was 2 😄 ), and ExifTool saved the date correctly. I coulsd check using a simple software, such as PhotoMill. The problem is that C1 doesn't accept dates prior to 01/01/1970, and I am more than 47....
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